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Venezuela and the Chavez Legacy:

 526 daltar, Sun, 9th Mar '14 12:52:04 PM from the fantasy of green. Relationship Status: All is for my lord
The Maid

Warning video is kind of strong in some parts. Bloody images, beatings and such.

edited 9th Mar '14 12:52:10 PM by daltar

If I'm sure of something it's that I'm not sure of anything.
 527 Deviant Braeburn, Fri, 14th Mar '14 6:38:59 PM from Dysfunctional California
 528 daltar, Fri, 14th Mar '14 7:11:53 PM from the fantasy of green. Relationship Status: All is for my lord
The Maid
Oh the sheer hypocrisy.
If I'm sure of something it's that I'm not sure of anything.
 529 stormtroper, Sat, 15th Mar '14 11:19:08 AM from somewhere Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Fairy warring
Obligatory: This is Jaua. This is Jaua with Kerry.

[up][up] Video is now private.

If they are mentioning the doctored photographies of police and National Guard abuse, they also should mention the doctored photographies of 'armories' in possession of opposition leaders, or the actual images of the government's forces brutalizing protesters.

It sure is one-sided, but I think it's alright if you read it purely from self-criticism point of view.

It's definitely not Ukraine in the sense that no foreign power is likely to invade to save the President's ass if he gets overthrown.

Well, depending on how much influence the Castro's regime have within the armed forces, maybe.

So... I was watching today's civic-military manifestation, one part civic to twenty parts military, if not more.

edited 15th Mar '14 11:27:45 AM by stormtroper

...and that's how I ended up in the wardrobe.

It Just Bugs Me!
 530 Achaemenid, Sun, 16th Mar '14 7:04:00 PM from Glasgow Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Wir sind die Panzerjäger
Soldiers storm Altamira Square.

edited 16th Mar '14 7:04:08 PM by Achaemenid

 531 Radical Taoist, Sun, 16th Mar '14 9:02:28 PM from the #GUniverse
 532 stormtroper, Sun, 16th Mar '14 9:10:15 PM from somewhere Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Fairy warring
Ehhh, it's been that way daily since day one.
...and that's how I ended up in the wardrobe.

It Just Bugs Me!
 533 Tomodachi, Sun, 16th Mar '14 10:52:57 PM from Latveria Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Welcome to weirdness.
[up] Yep.

So, I decided to ignore whats happening, can't say I want to know how many people are killed, hear the goverment lies, or the opposition lies.

So, what do you guys know? Something is going to happen, or we are going to stick with the status quo and hear how the revolutionary forces defeated the fascists rebels?

Because honestly, im tired.

edited 17th Mar '14 10:07:47 AM by Tomodachi

I have no clue what i'm doing with this.

Picture done by Lunatica Yaoi

 534 stormtroper, Mon, 17th Mar '14 3:59:36 AM from somewhere Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Fairy warring
Whoever gets tired, loses.

So... I dunno. The only thing I'm sure is that for better or worse, things will never be as they were pre-12F.

Edit: Unrelated to the above, Altamira was militarized this morning.

edited 17th Mar '14 7:41:24 AM by stormtroper

...and that's how I ended up in the wardrobe.

It Just Bugs Me!
 535 Napoleon De Cheese, Mon, 17th Mar '14 2:28:44 PM from Valencia, Venezuela
żViteh?
The ball is in the government's court. What saved it this time was the lower classes were apathetic enough to NOT join the mobilizations, but if they take any future measures to further lower the quality of life (like the increase on the prices of oil they have hinted at), if Panama blocks the imports and exports through its territory, or if the services of water and electricity start failing again like they did the last two years (because of the dry season, since almost all our electricity is hydro-generated) in addition to the already existing discontment, the next protests will be those of the majorities.

Then again, a ballsy move from the USA might also topple them. USA is currently with egg on their face after the OEA ignored their requests altogether. If they want to keep their status as the top cock in the henhouse of the cross-American diplomacy, they will have to act more forcefully.

Which hopefully will amount to more than issuing shallow threats, but to less than dropping bombs on all of our collective heads, or starving us all to death by cutting our supply ways.

edited 17th Mar '14 2:31:51 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Haters gonna hate, apologists gonna make apologies up.
 536 Tomodachi, Mon, 17th Mar '14 2:53:25 PM from Latveria Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Welcome to weirdness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wNFl5kydzE

maduro... did a rape joke, saying Capriles was raped by a Gorilla.

He fucking did a rape joke, and people praise that.

A FUCKING RAPE JOKE, to a man, with a fucking gorilla, AIDS and stuff...

This, this is a new low, this is the lowest of low, IM DISGUTED BY THE MERE THOUGHT OF IT.

Also, saying people no longer support Capriles, DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE GOING TO SUPPORT YOU YOU DISGUTING INSULTING SON OF A BITCH.
I have no clue what i'm doing with this.

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 537 Achaemenid, Mon, 17th Mar '14 2:55:37 PM from Glasgow Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Wir sind die Panzerjäger
[up]

If it doesn't make you too angry, please could you translate and explain the joke for those of us without the...err...privilege of being able to understand Maduro in his native tongue?
 538 Tomodachi, Mon, 17th Mar '14 2:57:35 PM from Latveria Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Welcome to weirdness.
He told that Capriles (chucky lucky, don't ask) went to africa and met a gorilla.

And that he survived the fucking gorilla.

The implication is disguting.

edited 17th Mar '14 3:06:08 PM by Tomodachi

I have no clue what i'm doing with this.

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 539 Achaemenid, Mon, 17th Mar '14 2:59:32 PM from Glasgow Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Wir sind die Panzerjäger
That seems rather racist. What a douche.
 540 Tomodachi, Mon, 17th Mar '14 3:05:46 PM from Latveria Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Welcome to weirdness.
It was in a jungle.

It was homofobic in a not so subtle way.

edited 17th Mar '14 3:05:55 PM by Tomodachi

I have no clue what i'm doing with this.

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 541 stormtroper, Mon, 17th Mar '14 3:56:42 PM from somewhere Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Fairy warring
Well, it's not like he was subtle those times he called people faggots.

While we're on the topic of homophobic jokes I wanted to confess that "Mamaduro" still makes me laugh.

(I still don't get Chuckie-luckie. Or Chuckie for that matter.)

The ball is in the government's court. What saved it this time was the lower classes were apathetic enough to NOT join the mobilizations, but if they take any future measures to further lower the quality of life (like the increase on the prices of oil they have hinted at), if Panama blocks the imports and exports through its territory, or if the services of water and electricity start failing again like they did the last two years (because of the dry season, since almost all our electricity is hydro-generated) in addition to the already existing discontment, the next protests will be those of the majorities.

It's worth noting that since their economic model is unsustainable, they're pretty much trapped. Things will get worse and worse unless they change it, which would involve measures that would be extremely painful for the population at large, and the longer they wait, the more painful it'll be. Carlos Andrés Pérez must be cackling in his grave.

I just hope they don't succeed at scapegoating the opposition.

That said, I'm worried about what'll happen if the protests subside. They might not hesitate to crack down even small protests over innocuous things, or disappear oppositors, or anything, lest it gets out of their hands like this one.

edited 17th Mar '14 5:17:29 PM by stormtroper

...and that's how I ended up in the wardrobe.

It Just Bugs Me!
 542 eligram, Mon, 17th Mar '14 5:02:29 PM from Venezuela Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Paranoid Android
m.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/140314/roban-la-casa-de-estudiante-asesinado-en-la-isabelica

Kind of old news, let me try my best to translate: The home of Jesus Enrique Acosta Matute, a student at the University of Carabobo killed on March 12 in The Isabelica was stolen Friday March 14 while the relatives were in Cemetery "Jardines del Recuerdo" in the act of burial.

The criminals took advantage of the family and neighbors absence and stole a laptop, a desktop computer and a tablet. They also stole toiletries, dishwashing soap, detergents and medicines.

The fact that there are assholes without a single ounce of a soul to rob a family that just lost their son is depressing, but that the shortage is so bad that thieves take their time to steal detergents? I wont say we're standing at our lowest point as I don't want to tempt fate, but we're pretty damn close.

edited 17th Mar '14 5:07:17 PM by eligram

 543 Napoleon De Cheese, Mon, 17th Mar '14 6:52:05 PM from Valencia, Venezuela
żViteh?
To be fair, Carlos Andres dropped a major ball by taking all those measures AFTER never mentioning them once in his campaign. I'm old enough to remember that, and how people felt briskly betrayed because the guy never said what he actually planned to do.

Perez was certainly no saint (and the less be said of Lusinchi, the better). Caldera mostly had his heart in the right place, although talking in favor of Chavez (and then releasing him) was an opportunistic move that ultimately costed us A FREAKING LOT.

[up]Eh, the shortage IS that bad, but cheap thieves will ALWAYS take a chance to steal anything.

edited 17th Mar '14 6:53:09 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Haters gonna hate, apologists gonna make apologies up.
 544 stormtroper, Mon, 17th Mar '14 8:32:44 PM from somewhere Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Fairy warring
I'm just old enough to faintly remember Caldera's second term, so being the only pre-Chávez president I remember, I get some sort of wistfulness about him that prevents me from disliking him, even though he really messed up during that government.

I also remember when Chávez was thin and acted like a mostly normal person.
...and that's how I ended up in the wardrobe.

It Just Bugs Me!
 545 daltar, Thu, 20th Mar '14 3:53:50 PM from the fantasy of green. Relationship Status: All is for my lord
The Maid
So you're going to jail!

And you're going to jail too!

Everyone goes to jail!

Sincerely, they are pulling all stops. Two mayors going to jail for failing to suppress the peaceful manifestations of the students, while they are working to remove the immunity on Maria Corina so they can jail their second of the great opposition leaders.

Good thing she managed to leave the country in time for her meet with the OEA, thanks to Panama.

On my part, I'm shamed that the mayor I voted to office, Miguel Chocchiola, seems to have made the peace with Maduro's government... moving against the protesting students and tearing down the barricades. Plus, he suddenly was able to obtain the manpower and resources to make a sweep with dozens of trucks full of people to remove all barricades.
If I'm sure of something it's that I'm not sure of anything.
 546 eligram, Thu, 20th Mar '14 5:56:40 PM from Venezuela Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Paranoid Android
I just hate the hypocrisy coming from them. So those two are sent to prison because they where "failing at their job", but when we make protests demanding Maduro to renounce because of his ineptitud to... or really, let's just be honest, not wanting to solve the problems in this country, is blasfemy to democracy!

Not only Maduro and his fonies have done worse, insulting the protesters, permiting brutal repression by the police and military, but also have openly called their "colectivos" for confrontations. But noooo, they're fucking saints!

It's sad to see that they're so openly repressive and so few of the other countries calls them on it.

I'm starting to believe peaceful protests isn't a option anymore.

Oh, and they still going on with Maduro birth certificate, saying he' colombian. Seriously, it's been more than a year and nothing! Show it already or let it go.

 547 Tomodachi, Thu, 20th Mar '14 6:19:07 PM from Latveria Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Welcome to weirdness.
La guerra de los sexos is over, just letting you know.

Can't say im sorry about it.
I have no clue what i'm doing with this.

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 548 stormtroper, Sat, 22nd Mar '14 6:27:00 PM from somewhere Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Fairy warring
Maybe not peaceful protests specifically, but peaceful civil disobedience is always an option. There's a reason Chávez hated Gene Sharp.

As for mayors, gladly Eveling slowly but surely seems to be justifying her existence.

edited 22nd Mar '14 6:58:52 PM by stormtroper

...and that's how I ended up in the wardrobe.

It Just Bugs Me!
 549 Achaemenid, Fri, 28th Mar '14 4:43:39 PM from Glasgow Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
 550 eligram, Fri, 28th Mar '14 6:46:07 PM from Venezuela Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Paranoid Android
[up] That woman is crazy.

Three generals arrested for plotting coup in Venezuela, says Maduro.

How convenient that they discovered the plotting just when ministers from the UNASUR visited Venezuela just to paint themselves as victims. Cynical bastards.

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