satanic?!

I remember a time when I had a discussion with a Christian classmate in high school where he basically argued that I was only agnostic because listening to Ozzy Osbourne caused me to be confused about religion. That was really as bad as I remember it getting.

Oh, and I guess this would be loosely related: When I was 13 or so and was asked about this "Alternative Rock" I was listening to, I had to explain to my dad that, no, it was not in fact music made exclusively by and for gay people. Y'see he thought it was "alternative" in the sense of "alternative lifestyles".

edited 21st Aug '11 2:39:22 PM by MikeK

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"Alternative lifestyles."

Pardon.

I thought that stereotypically gay music was supposed to be all dance music, glammy synth-pop and show tunes... Or some bizarre hybrid of the three.

But yes.

Also, Ozzy Osbourne makes you agnostic?

edited 21st Aug '11 3:33:09 PM by JHM

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I think really any misconceptions that turn any kind of music into something demonized would fit in here as the same trope more or less.

People thinking that all rock tells kids to kill their parents, would be an example of the trope I was refering to. It borders between demonization and pure idiotcy made by ignorant people.

Come on people! i love hearing what idiots say about our favriote kinds of music! does anyone else have a story?

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To be fair to my dad I don't remember him having actually heard any of the actual music. He just saw me suddenly being in possession of a bunch of tapes *

of groups with weird names like Green Day and Weezer, asked me about it, and the word "alternative" came up.

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OP, no offence, but I think you're the only one here with vested interest in the topic.

You're in good company on the tapes thing. I still carry my Walkman and a few cassettes wherever I go.

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Walkman still exist?

Yes, people still listen to cassettes.

Unsurprisingly, it's a big thing with underground noise.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.

I have The Dark Side Of The Moon on cassette.

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Say, I have a question. I've heard it, I just want to confirm it: Is Taylor Swift satanic?

Peace is the only battle worth waging.

Yes.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt." - Some guy with a snazzy hat.

Yes.

Taylor Fucking Swift is a satanist.

The rumors are true.

go ahead and do every stupid thing you can imagine

The good Christian girl thing is a cover then?

Deep Cover, yo.

Her next album is going to be Satanic death metal.

go ahead and do every stupid thing you can imagine

That's... interesting. Still, I'd rather get the topic starter's word on the subject.

Peace is the only battle worth waging.

i dont know anything about talyor swift, but her genre (pop? country?) is definately not satanic. satanic music by definition is a kind of music that lyrically talks about satanism seriously as an idealology/religion/lifestyle/philosphy.

It's like political music. It's not political if the subject matters are not about politics.

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Jason, out of curiosity, what is your definition of Satanism? Are you referring to Le Veyan Satanism?

Satanism is any religion/philosophy that reveres Satan in anyway, either as a symbol, metaphor, or literal being.

There are an extraordinary amount of different branches, so much that most Satanists (or at least most the ones I know) just go by that definition, since Satan could be anything between a monotheistic creator god, to one of many polytheistic gods, to a man made invention.

I really though was intending this topic to be about demonization in general, not just the kind where people call things Satanic. That specific kind just happens to be the most common (in my experience), which is why I titled the topic as such.

edited 25th Sep '11 1:58:19 PM by jasonwill2

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A lot of so-called Christians lump all rock music, or anything that remotely resembles rock music together as "satanic," and come up with whack stories to support their beliefs (like Stairway to Heaven will brainwash you. Subliminal messaging has been proven to be ineffective, and yet people still use it as an argument.) These people calling the music you have mentioned "satanic" are not only funny, but clearly ignorant, closed minded and immature. The statement that System of a Down is a terrorist band clearly illustrates this. Unfortunately, although most Christians aren't like this (at least from my experience) there definitely are enough of them out there to be really frustrating. They are clearly in the wrong, and here is how: If anything, being afraid of the devil lurking in everything you watch, see, or listen to only proves that these people don't believe in the power of the God they profess. If they think they can't be safe from the devil while living in the world they believe God has placed them in, then how can they expect to be safe when an actual conflict arises? Finally, these people are unable to see the good that is in such bands as you have mentioned. System of a Down is a very innovative band with deep thoughts and lyrics, and Linkin Park, although ansty at times, addressed a lot of issues teens and young adults face. It's sad people would pass up listening to these bands for their "religious convictions" (aka pigheadedness.) As for the other bands, while I feel there may be genuine Satanic music, a lot of bands get this label because they associate themselves with the devil to be "unique" and "edgy." Also, as the above thread has mentioned, Satanism is a very misunderstood thing. Perhaps educating these people about actual satanism would be a good thing, but I doubt they are mature enough to handle it. And I have written a book. Sorry about that.

lol post 69

All I know is that I went to a Catholic high school where people seemed pretty open-minded. Really just the administration that came in in the last two years I was there wasn't too open-minded, but no one really persecuted anyone for musical taste. I distinctly remember a pretty rational discussion about metal music in one of my classes (literature I think?) and talking to the people who worked in the campus ministry of the school about how much we loved The Beatles (especially Sgt. Pepper and Rubber Soul).

...Well, okay, there was that one teacher who thought all death metal was "KILL YOUR MOTHER! KILL YOUR FATHER!", but, then, he screamed that while playing (his words) "death metal violin" (which amounted to just a single violin chord played as if it were part of a Velvet Underground song).

edited 7th Nov '11 12:56:56 AM by 0dd1

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