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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#2026: Sep 21st 2012 at 6:57:19 AM

Honestly, the name is the hardest part. Her basic premise is fine, her costume can be reworked into something doable, but her names are terrible for marketing. You've got a choice between campy and boring.

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#2027: Sep 21st 2012 at 7:08:37 AM

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I think that ideally a Ms Marvel story would be best told in a trilogy, the first would be a campy sort of fun Superhero story using the Ms Marvel name (like say the first Iron Man, possibly with the press naming her that, or it being a accidentally given name or something), the second being a darker more "realistic" movie (closer in tone to the Avengers) using Warbird, and finally a third half-way ground between the two using the Captain Marvel name, with flavors of camp and grittiness combined.

I would also like to see them feature the whole "Binary/The Brood" plotline, possibly in the Warbird movie or between it and the Ms Marvel one, but I don't want them to use the Binary codename since it has zero clout.

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#2028: Sep 21st 2012 at 8:25:39 AM

The name is largely irrelevant since most movies, the Marvel ones included, tend to be very ironic or post-modernist about them in a wink, nod way.

So you could just have Captain Marvel be a joke or nickname that the press or one of her fellow soldiers gives her and then just call her "Carol". Heck I think Hawkeye and Black Widow are only ever referred to as such one or twice and just get called "Natasha" and "Barton" for most of the Avengers flick.

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#2029: Sep 21st 2012 at 9:15:10 AM

Not just character name, but also movie name. But maybe it's just me that'd want to see her carrying her own movie, because that's how I might like to see her debut.

Or maybe she could debut in GOTG somehow.

To my surprise, Erik Selvig is stated to be in the Thor sequel. I thought they were done with him.

And Kat Dennings (humminahumminahummina) and Idris Elba return with expanded roles too. And my fellow Nigerian for Kurse. And even a Stan Lee cameo!

edited 21st Sep '12 9:46:27 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#2030: Sep 21st 2012 at 11:25:14 AM

Y'know who I think would be awesome to see in a Thor sequel? Beta Ray Bill.

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#2031: Sep 22nd 2012 at 5:45:07 PM

I wonder if they'll do a Mordo/Dormammu team-up (with Mordo being the main archenemy who serves the powerful god (Dormammu remaining mostly offscreen)) for the Strange movie. It seems like the best course of action, though more likely I guess they'll do the origin (which would still involve Mordo, of course) and then do something like that.

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#2032: Sep 22nd 2012 at 7:48:40 PM

That's pretty much how it happened in the comics.

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#2033: Sep 22nd 2012 at 9:02:15 PM

I would also like to see them feature the whole "Binary/The Brood" plotline, possibly in the Warbird movie or between it and the Ms Marvel one, but I don't want them to use the Binary codename since it has zero clout.

Wait, weren't The Brood Xmen property?

Also, we can never have enough redheads. Never. Not unless they can import Jean and Mary Jane.

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metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#2034: Sep 23rd 2012 at 7:46:18 AM

The Brood showed up in the X-Men comics, but apparently the contracts are *not* ill-defined "anyone from that comic" type deals. So, they may be obscure enough not to be covered, especially since they aren't mutants in any way.

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#2035: Sep 23rd 2012 at 8:07:31 AM

[up]Source please.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#2036: Sep 23rd 2012 at 9:11:31 AM

If they're talking about the X-Men license in general, they may be correct. As someone mentioned before Kevin Feige mentioned that future Avengers sequels could conceivably use Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, but that Fox would have rights to them as well. I think the twins are even briefly name-dropped via a computer readout in X-2.

I have no idea with the Brood though.

edited 23rd Sep '12 9:12:15 AM by comicwriter

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#2037: Sep 23rd 2012 at 10:57:05 AM

Well, Quicksilver had a cameo in Wolverine Origins. He's still available to the Avengers so long as he isn't referred to as a mutant or Magneto's son.

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#2038: Sep 23rd 2012 at 11:09:03 AM

Yeah, I know that the courts specifically decided on Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch (who should also be a redhead) can be used in either capacity, but I've never run across the Brood as anything but an Xmen enemy. Dunno, maybe I just haven't seen them that much?

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#2039: Sep 23rd 2012 at 11:17:17 AM

I'd rather the Brood weren't used; they'd come off as too similar to xenomorphs.

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#2040: Sep 23rd 2012 at 11:33:29 AM

Oh, I'm fine with Wanda being a redhead. I'd prefer it.

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#2041: Sep 23rd 2012 at 1:51:15 PM

...Aren't there enough redheads in the cinematic universe already?

I mean, seriously, this is ridiculous.

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#2042: Sep 23rd 2012 at 1:56:04 PM

I'm not sure I understand the question. The way you arranged those words makes no sense.

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#2043: Sep 23rd 2012 at 2:04:01 PM

We already have Pepper and Black Widow, do we need another redhead?

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#2044: Sep 23rd 2012 at 2:34:07 PM

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Last time I looked, Pepper in the MCU is blonde.

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#2045: Sep 23rd 2012 at 2:35:22 PM

I'm not sure why we wouldn't. Besides, you can blame Lee for starting that craze way back when.

As [up] mentioned, she's strawberry blonde anyway, which isn't real red hair.

edited 23rd Sep '12 2:36:14 PM by Deboss

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#2046: Sep 23rd 2012 at 2:38:03 PM

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I don't understand why Gwenth Paltrow didn't dye her hair.

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#2048: Sep 25th 2012 at 9:33:37 AM

It looks like the Ten Rings terrorists from the first film are back in Iron Man 3. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=67799

edited 25th Sep '12 11:10:30 AM by comicwriter

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#2049: Sep 25th 2012 at 10:14:15 AM

[up] Not surprising, considering that the character that the group's named after is appearing in it as well.

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#2050: Sep 27th 2012 at 9:26:27 PM

So who all got the Avengers DVD? What all is on it? On the Blu-Ray? (I keep forgetting I have a PS 3 and thus can watch that).

His name was Philip Coulson.

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