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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
Huh. I thought this thread was for the MCU and not Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Hey, you guys should have done what I did: not watched it. Man, did I dodge a bullet there. Gwen Stacy? Still alive. Also, she was the one bitten by the spider and she became Spider-Woman.
If you ask me it is certainly worth watching at least once. I am actually thinking of buying the movie...though I would like it in a nice little box. (Honestly, If I had the right equipment, I would recut it, just for fun.).
To bring the original point of the derail back on topic, When Age Of Ultron's plot involved a Colony Drop, there wasn't an awkward cut to a completely different part of the world that the Avengers had no idea was in danger.
Man, that sequence freaked me out. The tension in that was very effective for me, in large part because the Mega Man franchise has thoroughly scarred me on the threat of a Colony Drop, by virtue of successfully carrying out one in their canon.
When Ultron said, "the only things living in this world will be metal," I got a chill down my spine because I'd seen that world.
EDIT: Also, credit to the filmmakers that after the Sokovia chunk is destroyed, the debris lands in water, not the crater it was lifted from. The floating island drifted from its original spot after taking to the air, as it should.
edited 27th May '15 10:40:18 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.I figured that was mostly so it avoided the Fridge Horror of chunks of rock raining down on innocent bystanders but that's a good point.
I've still got one big question about that, actually:
All of that mass is STILL coming down. Maybe not as fast, and not in as huge a chunk, and maybe in the water, but it's still coming down. There by all means should be SOME form of fallout.
The landmass wasn't high enough yet and it didn't crash down as one massive chunk in a single area. That probably had a lot to do with why it wasn't a global extinction event.
Given the height they ascended to, the slow rate of climb, and the sheer scale of the evacuation, it's probable that the final battle took place over the course of several hours. We just see the highlights.
What said. A lot of the mass is still coming down - although according to Tony in his conversation with Friday, much of it was vaporized, so it's significantly less mass coming down - but it's decentralized over a wide area. More equivalent to a meteor shower than one big crash.
edited 27th May '15 10:50:41 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.I actually read an article which claimed that even if Ultron had let it drop from the highest point possible it wouldn't have caused a humanity destroying event because it wouldn't have been as fast as an actual meteor. Which made me wonder if it being over Water was intentional. It would destroy the earth, but it would certainly cause a giant wave.
Did that article take into account the fact that the thrusters flip over and shoot the rock down at the Earth, rather than just letting it fall?
My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.Oh, and Hot Toys has released Gamora. This looks pretty cool...if I were a collector, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Here is a nice overview (it is quite funny that the one who did the pictures of the toy nearly repeated the butt-shot from the movie): http://figurefanzero.com/2015/05/27/guardians-of-the-galaxy-gamora-16-scale-figure-by-hot-toys/
That's worth considering. It's falling faster than terminal velocity. It might not be enough to wipe humanity out entirely but as long as Ultron kills a ton of people and destabilizes the ecosystem his drones can pick off the rest of us.
edited 27th May '15 11:06:57 AM by Kostya
Didn't the meteor that killed the dinosaurs not kill them immediately? Everything in the impact zone died, but the rest slowly succumbed over the centuries to the kilotons of smoke and dust that was flung around the world poisoning the atmosphere. Even they weren't immediately wiped out.
Ultron probably didn't expect it to immediately kill everyone but destabilizing even a single continent would plunge the world into chaos as the economy and environment spiraled out of control.
You know what movie it just struck me I want to see in the MCU? Nextwave by Matthew Vaughn or someone else.
Ultron also might have wanted the rock to rise higher. There's no guarantee it was at the height he intended, and he'd already announced a willingness to settle for killing billions rather than global extermination.
At the time he dropped the rock, he'd lost all but two drones - one of whom was too far to be relevant - as well as his Prime. It was now or never. The Avengers forced his hand by winning the fight.
edited 27th May '15 11:45:25 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.Nextwave is pretty great, but it would have to be a seriously last-phase kind of thing.
Is it me or does Phase 3 feel like it's going to be a lot more expansion to the MCU in comparison to the first two phases?
Each new phase will have more groundwork to build for new movies and such.
Phase 1 set the groundwork, Phase 2 showed that they could still bring people back with both sequels and new properties, and Phase 3 is the point where they're established enough that they're willing to take bigger risks.
To me it looks like they are testing out as many properties as possible and whatever catches on we'll see in phase 4.
If that's true, I am behind it. Especially if it's truly a change they didn't make just to change things up but because it simply felt right for them.
I'm getting annoyed by these reports of white people getting considered for the Ancient One. He is from Tibet you idiots.
The planes work better for me. If I got to chose I would take them over the hospital. But I think that showing two different instances of problems is a better idea.
Plus, there is a certain ironic in this whole thing. If Gwen had not meet Peter on the bridge, she would have most likely sat in one of those planes in the air and might have died because Peter wouldn't have been able to defeat Electro without her.