Mob Assaults Fair Goers in Wisconsin

A mob of youths apparently perpetuated a rash of assaults at the Wisconsin state fair. People were attacked on foot, pulled out of cars, off bikes etc. State Troopers were sent to quell the violence. Some are claiming this has racial motivations and were claiming the vast majority of the youths were Black or African American.

First Article

Article that has the claims of it being racially motivated

Curfew Imposed After the Attacks

Governor Orders State Troopers to be Present at the fair after the opening night violence

So what do you guys think this was about? Anyone hear anything related to this?

Do not derail this topic over some Anarchist ideals or other issues that are not directly related to this story.

Well, a combat veteran is a pretty damn credible source of info in a truamatic situation like this, so I think it's racial.

I hadn't heard about it, but this sounds horrible. I'm wondering what the trigger was that started the whole thing.

Combat vets can be biased/not see all of the event just like everyone else. Because they are vet does not lend them instant unquestionable credibility. If the crowd was entirly one ethnicity attacking another then that might be true. For all we know this is gang activity of some sort.

Keep in mind at this point then investigation is still ongoing.

Vets are less liekly to go into shock, and soldiers tend to remember thing incredibly well when their adrenline is pumping.

They are still human and prone to every aspect of the human condition regardless of their experiences. And again that does not eliminate bias or missing pieces of information not available. Also you stated something that is not even reliably accurate. People can also forget things when their adrenaline gets pumping even combat vets.

Ie I doubt he was present for the entiriety of the incident and at every assault. Therefore we can cast some reasonable doubt until we have more information.

If he was describing a singular and localized event I would be inclined to agree but this not a single instance and it is not localized. It occured throughout the state fair location and there were multiple assaults.

edited 5th Aug '11 4:20:26 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Gang violence and racial tension tend to go hand in hand. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case here.

It's painful to admit that things have only been going downhill in this city in recent years.

Also, at least three of the threads on the first page of OTC are about Wisconsin and NONE of them are good things. This accurately reflects the mood in the state right now, also.

edited 5th Aug '11 4:45:04 PM by Lessinath

According to a friend on another forum, this also happened during the 4th of July and at a mall. Which makes me believe this is organized gang activity, rather than something more spontaneous.

I could buy into gang related violence but that is not strictly limited to one race. Before I call out it being racially motivated though are A. All the assailants one race and B. All the victims a different race.

I see what your getting at with Wisonsin just seeming to be overflowing with trouble these days. Fast Eddie is somewhere out in the sticks in that state.

Lets see what happens with the investigation as it goes on.

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Blue for the win.

So we have a pattern of behaviour of violent youths. Sounds very much like it is gang related violence.

edited 5th Aug '11 4:53:55 PM by TuefelHundenIV

I would be very surprised if there is gang activity involved, however I would also be surprised if there was not at least some racial motivation going on here too.

Yeah gang-related sounds most plausible.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was gang activity. Organized mobs of youths performing similar actions has a strong relation to gang activity of at least low a level. Not all gangs are drugs and guns.

edited 5th Aug '11 9:20:17 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Why is it that I only hear about my state when it's doing something bad, or it involves a guy with crazy hair from the 1910s-1920s (<— obscure history joke)? Dammit. I got the shitty state. And I'm going to Ohio tomorrow for two weeks, so I'll be close to Cleveland, which is worse.

That's it. When I grow up, I'm moving to some state that I never hear about in the news. Like Oregon, or Washington. When's the last shitty headline you heard from them?

We may in the next few decades. The Cascadia Fault is due for an earthquake... not high chances yet, but 35% for (I think it was 30) years. Feeling lucky, punk?

This is pretty certainly Black on White racial violence. And related to the flashmobs in Southeast America.

edited 7th Aug '11 7:59:20 AM by Shichibukai

"Certainly"? Source/reasoning?

edited 7th Aug '11 7:32:20 AM by BobbyG

Liveleak video

Well, I'm sure characterizing racial violence as being the twofold fault of our first black president's campaign and welfare to the poor during an enormous economic turndown will help to ease any lingering tensions from the whole affair.

Oh, wait, it will do the exact opposite.

Nice going, racists.

Shichi, you disappoint me.

Don't take the moral highground or bring party politics into this, Karkadinn.

edited 7th Aug '11 7:43:10 AM by Shichibukai

I'm just reacting to what you quoted, Shichi. I didn't bring up welfare, I'm just responding to the accusation. If you're not prepared for negative responses to inflammatory rhetoric, perhaps you shouldn't cite inflammatory rhetoric.

@ Shichi: I see a sensationalist opinion piece containing no conclusive (or even strongly suggestive) evidence either way.

And who brought party politics into this, pray tell?

I wasn't trying to bring up welfare either. What I quoted is what I intended to bring attention to. There is a racial element to this attack, and it's being ignored.

http://globetribune.info/2011/08/05/racial-attacks-blight-wisconsin-state-fair-video/

edited 7th Aug '11 7:47:50 AM by Shichibukai

You yourself did not bring welfare/party politics into this but you posted an article that blatantly did so. Practically the same thing.

Hm... to be fair, it does sound as though there was a racial element to the attacks.

Not that that would make the attacks any worse than they already were, but it does change the nature of the problem, if true.