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OMG, they have started to build the Picture Library of Babel!:

Previously, I started a thread about the Library of Babel and I was thinking about it on a hypothetical, philosophical and theoretical level. But yesterday I came across this link.

TLDR: There is a project that has been running for 8 and a half years now. The ultimate goal of this project is to generate every possible 500*500 images with 256 colors. During the years, 1, 7% of it was completed.

So now it is a possibility that we will have every single 500*500 image ever. As computing capacity grows, I can even imagine that the whole library will be created in my lifetime. Who knows? Or if not, then 50% or even 20% of it would still mean a pretty interesting gallery.

Of course, there is the whole Fridge Horror and Nine Billion Names of God aspect to it, so...

Considering, that images can be chained together as frames to create videos, we have the (silent) Video Library of Babel too. Imagine the possibilities...

And considering that images can depict text (letters), we will have the entire Library of Babel in our hands too...

God, this is just disturbing.

edited 2nd Aug '11 4:27:59 AM by Sati1984

"We have done the impossible and that makes us mighty." - Malcolm Reynolds
Needs to be more Evil
I find it a bit ... boring.

I read the Nine Billion Names of God, and Borge's Library of Babel story, but I don't see what the big deal is.
Point that somewhere else, or I'll reengage the harmonic tachyon modulator.
[up] Just think about it...

What if there are pictures that will make you mad upon seeing them? What if there are pictures that insta-kill?

That's where the Nine Billion Names come into the picture. These Are Things Man Was Not Meant to Know...
"We have done the impossible and that makes us mighty." - Malcolm Reynolds
Just because a horrible, anorexic racist claimed that there were things that man was not meant to know doesn't make it true.
 
Needs to be more Evil
[up][up]If Brown Note pictures exist, what makes you think that that program is more likely to find them than deviantART or fark? The images produced by these have higher chances of ever being visioned by actual human beings.
Point that somewhere else, or I'll reengage the harmonic tachyon modulator.
PARTY HARD!!!!
The nine billion names of God was fairly interesting, although I am quite disappointed at the ending. I was expecting something more Lovecraft-esque.

As for the picture thing, I cannot help but be unnerved by the fact that somewhere in there, deep within its many volumes, will be a picture of me having sex with a monkey.
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PARTY HARD!!!!
On second thought, there is no way that this thing is ever going to get off the ground. Not only will the government be against this, but so too will be countless others.

I suspect that the owners will be arrested for possession of child pornography, and the database will be destroyed. After all, it will include ALL images.
Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! ~ GOD
Oh God, it would be incredibly and darkly hilarious if this was all just a scheme by a bunch of child pornographers to produce and distribute their shit.
 
Gunpla is amazing!
so how many lolcats will make up this project?

 10 Drunk Girlfriend, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 9:44:14 AM from Castle Geekhaven
@Thorn: All of them. wild mass guess

edited 2nd Aug '11 9:44:24 AM by DrunkGirlfriend

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 11 Blue Ninja 0, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 10:07:28 AM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Slowly dying on the inside
If I'm reading the post right, all of these images are limited to 500x500 pixels. Isn't that going to, er, reduce image quality by quite a bit?
Once the avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to cast their vote. - Ambassador Kosh
The problem is the amount of time it would take. 256 colors per pixel, 250000 pixels per image. That's 256^250000 or 9.8*10^602059 images.

Now let's say a computer can generate 10000 per nanosecond (10 trillion per second, well beyond what current technology is capable of, but still.) and there are 10 billion computers in the world (another massive overestimate, ) every single one of which is capable of this absurd power (even netbooks.) Let's say that there's a distributed-computing effort that uses every single one. Now we have the project done in 3.1*10^602036 seconds, or 2.3*10^602019 times the age of the universe.

edited 2nd Aug '11 11:46:57 AM by AchromaticSky

"I want to create an omelet that expresses the meaninglessness of existence, and instead they taste like cheese."
 13 annebeeche, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 11:36:25 AM from by the long tidal river
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What a waste of computing power and time.
Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
 14 Ren Hydron, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 11:56:25 AM from the Land of Lost Laments
Unknown Phantom
Exactly how feasible is this project? I mean everything possible 500x500, 256 color image would be an extremely large amount.

Even with just limiting oneself to to 500x500 sized images with just 256 colors, you can effectively obtain every possible image ever, anything from an image of you sleeping in every single possible location, outfit, time, ect. to any way the world could possibly end, whether it be realistic, possible or something else.

The resulting possibilities could/ would violate a number of laws, give people intelligence that could be both false and true, really anything you could ever imagine.

edited 2nd Aug '11 11:56:55 AM by RenHydron

 15 pagad, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 1:25:01 PM from perfidious Albion Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Sneering Imperialist
On second thought, there is no way that this thing is ever going to get off the ground. Not only will the government be against this, but so too will be countless others. I suspect that the owners will be arrested for possession of child pornography, and the database will be destroyed. After all, it will include ALL images.

Yup, that was my immediate thought too.
 16 feotakahari, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 4:40:34 PM from Looking out at the city
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
^ Searching the library, you'll be much less likely to find realistic-looking child porn than pseudo-Rorschach images that look vaguely like child porn.

edited 2nd Aug '11 4:41:36 PM by feotakahari

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PARTY HARD!!!!
Not if you build an A.I. to do that for you.

We already have face recognition, so building a program to decide gibberish from non-gibberish would be a possibility. Likely one would have to teach an AI by showing what constitutes gibberish from what isn't.

Eliezer Yudkowsky could probably figure it out. I should send him a message.
Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! ~ GOD
 18 Tzetze, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 6:03:01 PM from a converted church in Venice, Italy
DUMB
If the mobsters that want to circumvent CAPTCHAs for cash monies can't work it out, a philosopher without a high school diploma is hopeless.

Anyway. It would make much more sense to just write a program to generate one of the images randomly on demand. Nobody's going to look through them all in order anyway.

edited 2nd Aug '11 6:11:27 PM by Tzetze

 19 deathjavu, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 6:42:10 PM from The internet, obviously
This foreboding is fa...
Tze's getting at my immediate thought: Who cares, if you can't search them in any meaningful way?

Unless they're organized and categorized, it's just useless. And organizing and cataloguing these pictures is a less than trivial task we probably can't give to computers.
Look, you can't make me speak in a logical, coherent, intelligent bananna.
The idea is that the very existence of the pictures would essentially mean that no image (or series of images) can be copyrighted as it already exists. The ability to index and catalog it is irrelevant.
"I want to create an omelet that expresses the meaninglessness of existence, and instead they taste like cheese."
 21 thespacephantom, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 7:26:59 PM from somewhere, beyond the sea
this is all ram's fault
What's the point of this, exactly?
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 22 Barkey, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 7:30:43 PM from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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If you look hard enough, you can see goatse.
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 23 Ekuran, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 8:04:35 PM from somewhere. Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Hi.
This would prove Rule 34, wouldn't it?

edited 2nd Aug '11 8:04:44 PM by Ekuran

[Insert seemingly profound or amusing phrase here.]
 24 annebeeche, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 8:52:49 PM from by the long tidal river
watching down on us
Guys, guys, google already has a search by image feature.

All we have to do to be able to search this database is to apply this search by image feature.
Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
 25 deathjavu, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 9:33:09 PM from The internet, obviously
This foreboding is fa...
The idea is that the very existence of the pictures would essentially mean that no image (or series of images) can be copyrighted as it already exists. The ability to index and catalog it is irrelevant.

Only in 256 colors at 500x500 resolution. Wouldn't adding more colors at higher resolutions make it a different image? Or indeed, putting the images together in a unique manner? I sure hope the latter is still copyrightable to some extent, or big budget movies are probably done for.

Guys, guys, google already has a search by image feature. All we have to do to be able to search this database is to apply this search by image feature.

Not sure if you were joking or not, but Google searches all those pictures based on the "tags" they have, broadly speaking. I'm sure someone better with programming could explain it more clearly, but untagged pictures = does not come up in search.

edited 2nd Aug '11 9:34:19 PM by deathjavu

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