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deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24 Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: Aug 1st 2011 at 9:21:41 PM

It's both "Mentor who dies in story" and "Mentor who is also sidekick".

Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
Cure Candy
#2: Aug 1st 2011 at 9:28:20 PM

Type One is "Mentor Occupational Hazard" Its just one of the things these types usually end up doing so the hero has to grow out of "The student" role.

edited 1st Aug '11 9:29:52 PM by Raso

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#3: Aug 1st 2011 at 9:41:26 PM

The Obi-Wan combines several thematic elements. It requires a mentor, obviously, who acts in a supporting role to The Hero and travels with him on The Quest. It also usually requires that he die or be eliminated in a dramatic fashion in order to force the hero to grow up and assume his mature responsibilities. Passing the Torch is implied.

edited 1st Aug '11 9:42:38 PM by Fighteer

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#4: Aug 1st 2011 at 9:44:04 PM

Not always death though. They are usually removed from the story in some way though.

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edited 1st Aug '11 9:45:39 PM by Raso

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Insignificant Since: Dec, 1969
#5: Oct 29th 2011 at 7:39:38 PM

It doesn't help that it's a character-named trope.

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Oct 31st 2011 at 5:33:23 PM

Actually it does help because the natural thing to do with tropes is to point at an example and start from there. It's a decent example to point at.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#7: Oct 31st 2011 at 5:50:47 PM

Is there something that needs repair here? 'Cause I'm not seeing it. The Obi-Wan is a complex trope. That doesn't mean it needs fixing.

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Nov 1st 2011 at 7:14:04 AM

Nor me. Having more than one element in a trope isn't a problem. I'm gonna lock this one on up.

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