Rename: Meteor Move

The current title is somewhat misleading. It is not about tossing meteors or misc space rocks and tossing them at an opponent, or using moves to destroy those rocks either. It is about employing moves that tosses the opponent into the air and smashing them down to earth for massive damage, meteors unrelated. If alternate titles need to be provided, I have thought of Aerial Smash or Air Combo.

Seems like a reasonable enough name to me. Could use some redirects though.

Do we have any appreciable degree of misuse here? You can say it's misleading, but a cursory glance through some of the pages that contain it (a little over a dozen, fair for something with less than 80 wicks) shows no misuse that I can identify.

edited 21st Jul '11 7:29:47 PM by Loyal2NES

I know that in video gaming parlance, a Meteor Move is exactly what the trope describes (popularized by Super Smash Bros, but plenty of fighting games have them, and it's spread beyond that game's fanbase and even that genre's fanbase). So this wiki didn't invent the term.

I'm not particularly eager to rename this. I'm having trouble google searching this though, I keep getting a pokemon attack on google searches. Can someone point to a wiki that uses the term?

It could use some good redirects even if we don't rename.

I'll do you one better - an official website that refers to the move as such:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/basic/basic10.html

That page calls them Meteor Smashes because the attacks in question are specifically using the "smash" (rapid tilt of the joystick plus basic attack) mechanic. It was extrapolated that all such moves, be they smash attacks or not, would be simply Meteor Moves. The name caught on outside of said fandom afterwards.

That doesn't prove that the term is in common use. Just that it's a mechanic term from one small fandom. That doesn't mean it's clear. Honestly, this title made me think of Meteor from Final Fantasy which is a huge move that does a lot of damage.

That's one (1) work that uses the term, which is also claiming to be the Trope Namer. If you want to claim pre-existing term, I want to see A) a general fighting game wiki/forum that uses the term or B) multiple games using the same term. I'm willing to forgive competing game companies trying to make up their own terms, as that's the sort of thing I expect from buzzword advertisement.

It's a good name as it is because I see it used in the video game fandom all the time. Smash Bros. is somewhat of a Trope Namer, since "Meteor Smashes" are aerial attacks that, if used properly, shoot the victim straight down, which usually means instant death at the risk of jumping off the edge. And that fandom is really huge and competitive, so the term is pre-existing.

Some redirects would be nice, but it's an oddly specific, fantasy fighting move. No other name has really caught on. Titles will either be just as vague, if not more, or overly long. My suggestions were Smashed Down To Earth and Blown Up Knocked Down, neither of those seem better than Meteor Move.

edited 21st Jul '11 9:46:35 PM by HeavyDDR

Yeah, this one definitely comes from a pre-existing term. I always called them "Spikes" but I know other people (and the official game) said "Meteors".

70 wicks, 77 inbounds.

Spiking The Opponent as a redirect?

What about Meteor Spiking? I guess that still has the connotation of spiking an actual meteorite, but, hey.

I admit, spiking is probably a better term since it has the advantage of being a volleyball/general ballgame term.

Aerial Smash or Spiking The Opponent make for good redirects.

Actually, the official term is Meteor Smash (redirecting) not Meteor Move, though I can guess why we chose "move" over "smash".

BTW, when Googling for exact trope names make sure to use quotation marks to weed out pages that contain the terms independently.

For example:

• meteor move - 10.6 million ("-tropes" reduces to 10.4M)
• meteor smash - 3.23 million ("-tropes" reduces to 3.16M)
• "meteor smash" - 407,000 ("-tropes" reduces to 402k)
• "meteor move" - 5,680 ("-tropes" reduces to 5,390)

The good news is that excluding TV Tropes barely dents the search results on any of them. The bad news is we're using the wrong term — notice the 2,000:1 ratio between quotes and not-quotes for "meteor move". Also notice a nearly 100:1 ratio between "Meteor Smash" and "Meteor Move" (both with quotes).

edited 22nd Jul '11 8:02:58 AM by Stratadrake

I made and attached a rename crowner. Let's vote on this.

Eh, if it's supposed to be Meteor Smash and not Meteor Move I guess we should probably switch it to that, so I'll vote yes.

edited 22nd Jul '11 11:07:57 AM by Arha

If you want multiple games that use meteor differently, try these on. Although there is a move called meteor strike, the enemy it deals with makes it a potential example for both titles.

edited 22nd Jul '11 11:05:37 AM by MikaruKeiko

I Thought It Meant Kirby's move (from his own games, not SSB) where he turns into a fireball and flies forward rapidly...

I wanted to see other games using "Meteor Move" to describe the trope at Meteor Move. Not just things involving the word "meteor".

The problem with describing a move as a "Meteor Move" in the current context (Launching an opponent into the air and smashing them down into the ground) is the fact that, when taken into context, it gives the people the image of a person attacking in a way that uses the power of a meteor strike. This trope however deals with people fighting in such a fashion, with only a marginal possibility of using an actual meteor.

Reading this, there are two terms that could be the trope definition, one Meteor smash, which can be negated, and Spike, which can't. As the current trope is a bit vague on if the attack could be stopped while being the pummelee or not, I will stop here.

Well, unless I missed something, or the Trope Namer had bits tacked on, the Launcher Move isn't necessary.

Meteor Slam?

Dragon Ball is the trope namer actually. I'm not sure if it was the comic, or Final Bout video game that named it first, but they did it before Super Smash Bros, though it is the Trope Codifier.

Point is, it is a preexisting term.

I like Meteor Slam as a redirect.