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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: Jul 14th 2011 at 6:14:11 PM

And a historian finally gets someone to try and fix it.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/fine-print-north-dakota-may-not-state-195631502.html

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#2: Jul 14th 2011 at 6:18:04 PM

I think Ohio has a better argument.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#3: Jul 14th 2011 at 9:42:41 PM

Why don't we just merge North and South Dakota? Not like it'd make much difference.

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#4: Jul 14th 2011 at 9:51:59 PM

In related news S. Dakota is enjoying the now undisputed reign as most boring state in the union.

Please.
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#5: Jul 14th 2011 at 9:53:38 PM

I thought Wyoming is in contention for that. :P

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#6: Jul 14th 2011 at 9:54:58 PM

Make Puerto Rico a state at the same time, and that removes the trouble of removing a star.

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Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Jul 14th 2011 at 11:37:15 PM

Far be it for me to begrudge an old man his hobby, but this guy is wrong.

If a state constitution conflicts with the Constitution of the United States or any treaty or law passed pursuant to it, then the Federal law governs. It doesn't render ND's statehood void.

Yes, Article VI does require that members of the state executives and legislatures be bound by oath or affirmation to uphold the Constitution. It does not require the same of state Constitutions. As long as North Dakota's elected officials have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, then they have fulfilled the requirement necessary to discharge the function of their office.

There is no problem here, and there never was. North Dakota became a State by an Act of Congress signed by President Benjamin Harrison. Article IV Section 3 clearly delegates the power to admit new States to Congress. North Dakota was part of the territories of the United States and subject to its jurisdiction at the time of admittance in 1889. That is all the Constitution and the law requires.

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EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Jul 14th 2011 at 11:44:10 PM

Plus a vote in the state congress.

Eric,

abstractematics Since: May, 2011
#9: Jul 15th 2011 at 12:38:07 AM

This is just a technicality, and as long as it's fixed to put the matter to rest, it shouldn't be any problem.

Now if the person insisted on using this just to argue that something wasn't ratified properly etc., then I would get annoyed.

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#10: Jul 15th 2011 at 6:26:18 AM

If this is indeed a legal glitch, someone please patch it before some idiot uses it to rule lawyer their way out of legislation.

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#11: Jul 15th 2011 at 6:37:31 AM

That sound you'e hearing is 20,000 beer kegs opening simultaneously in South Dakota.

If you watched The West Wing, they would have you believe S.Dakotans spend all their time flinging darts at North Carolina on a map.

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