Needs a better name: Civillain

Basically, the trope's title isn't terribly descriptive, aside from the fact that, well, that's not what "Civilian" means. It needs a better name.

At least here it's not an actual page, though.

For some reason, the way the search is currently set up it will bring blank pages as some of the search results.

Main/Civillain found in: 59 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 42 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

edit: I'm not seeing much misuse, either. Maybe a redirect would help with "Wiki Magic"?

edited 14th Jul '11 10:10:20 AM by Xtifr

Huh. When I first looked, it was just the blank "click edit" thing. Now it's showing the actual trope page.

Weird...

I could have sworn this trope was called "Civilian" a first, but now it seems to be "Civillain". Which is still a mildly confusing title, but at least avoids my initial concern.

Now the question is, did it just get changed, or should I stop sniffing glue?

WTF kind of title is this?... Seriously might be the worst title I have ever seen.

As well as the worst description. This is where the villain turns the cops on the heroes?

This is quite possible the most obtuse name I've seen yet. Rename crowner made and hooked.

Okay, who names a trope about a villain going normal civilian, I mean civilian can't be attributed to this of all things.

Wait.. Oh civillain, I just got that! Hah hah, wow, that pun is beautiful, it's a shame we have to get rid of it. I'll need to keep that for something later.

If you have to think that hard to get the pun, then there's a problem with the title.

It's not that I didn't get the pun, it's that I missed it entirely. When you skim the word it looks like "civilian" until I realized "Is there an extra "L" there?"

Darnit! I like the name, but it probably is too subtle and easy to overlook to be a good name. *sigh*

Consensus is for a rename. Adding an alt names crowner. Anyone have any ideas?

edited 14th Sep '11 4:13:11 PM by shimaspawn

...Civilian Villain?

It's not bad.

Keep the name, its good.

The name is not being kept. We did the rename crowner. We voted for a rename. This trope is being renamed. The time to vote not to rename is passed.

How about Villain Re Formed?

It's a double entendre, see? Huh? Huh?

Oh damn, missed the boat.

Civilian Villain just sounds like a villain who isn't in the military. Falsely Reformed Villain? Fake Reformed Villain? Fake Villain Reformation?

I Reformed Suckers like I Surrender, Suckers? Snowclone, I know, but it's one that works on its own.

So, looks like this is pretty stable and well in favor of Civilian Villain.

I have to admit, recalling some particular examples of I Surrender, Suckers, the snowclone seems to work well. Wish it could be considered as a potential name.

Civillain's description was copied and pasted to a new Civilian Villain page, I sent a report to move the discussion, there is now a new laconic page for Civilian Villain while the old one is on the cutlist, the wicks were fixed (save for a few artifact ones), Civillain is now a redirect for Civilian Villain, and there are notes about the change on the Renamed Tropes page and in the renamed tropes thread.

I also added I Reformed Suckers and Falsely Reformed Villain as redirects because I thought they might help improve use of the trope, especially the latter one since it is more direct than Civilian Villain is.

Feel free to check my work on the rename, I feel like it might have been a bit rushed.

edited 7th Oct '11 3:30:38 PM by LouieW

This can be locked now.