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Barrylocke Reaching the Future, the hard way from Thracia Since: Aug, 2009
Reaching the Future, the hard way
#1: Jul 10th 2011 at 8:28:01 PM

So these are the rules I have, copy+pasted from Serenes with the alterations that were decided on.

Drafting:

  • This draft is for 5 players in the snake style (1,2,3,4,5,5,4,3,2,1,1,2...).
  • Eirika/Ephraim and Orson are free for all to use.
  • Seth is banned from all use.
  • The game will be played on Normal Mode.
  • Players are to use one save file until the conclusion of Chapter 8. From here, they must have 2 save files, one for Eirika's path, and one for Ephraim's path.

Rules:

  • Undrafted units may recruit characters, rescue UNDRAFTED units and NP Cs, trade, visit Shops and Armories, and dig up items in the desert.
  • Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding and building Supports.
  • Map shopping is allowed.
  • Skirmishes/use of the Tower or Ruins is disallowed. Skirmishes that are blocking your path may be activated and immediately fled from. The only exception to this rule is using the Tower to train Recruit units to Level 10. Undrafted units ONLY are allowed to assist recruits with this.
  • Defend chapters count the last played Player Phase for turns if the timer is waited out.

Penalties:

  • Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter.

Exceptions:

  • Vanessa may be used to Rescue Ross in Chapter 2 even if she is undrafted.
  • Thieves and their promotions are allowed to assist the group in opening doors and chests, even if they are undrafted.

Teams:

  • Barrylocke: Tana, Artur, Garcia, Kyle, Duessel, Ewan
  • Pulse: Amelia, Lute, Gerik, L'Arachel, Innes, Knoll
  • hnd 03: Natasha, Ross, Cormag, Neimi, Rennac, Myrrh
  • montagohalcyon: Franz, Gilliam, Moulder, Colm, Marisa, Saleh
  • Jonnas N: Forde, Vanessa, Joshua, Tethys, Dozla, Syrene

These are the liveblogs of previous draft for Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword.

Barrylocke

Jonas

montagohalcyon

Alfric

hnd 03

edited 31st May '12 7:52:53 PM by Barrylocke

Taking a break from FE1, for the FE8 draft instead
montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Rook
#2: Jul 11th 2011 at 12:00:15 AM

Alright, I'll synopsis-ize the first three chapters briefly, slightly more detail will come on 13x tomorrow.

Chapter 11 — Another Journey:

8 turns, ending on enemy phase. Took the bottom path. Hector is level 3; got a red gem and vulnerary; four enemies left, but the castle guards can deal with it.

If Matthew was allowed to break down walls (or if I'd managed to draft him...), could've been 2 or 3 turns sooner by the top route. He was forced to dodge three arrows that would've killed him, including one with a 67 hit, because I thought he started with a vulnerary without checking his inventory and Hector had already charged ahead. Oops.

Chapter 12 — Birds of a Feather:

6 turns. Marcus killed the boss, Bartre got the secret book, Hector took care of most of the rest and is now level 5. Sold Eliwood the Undrafted's rapier.

Wolf Biel is running out quickly, but OTOH, Hector needs his preferred weapon least out of all the lords—normal axes are still strong and the enemies it's effective against usually have lances anyway.

The reason it's running out is because the hand axe leaves pegasus knights on that level with 1-2 HP left and they like to fly off to places I can't reach, so I had no choice. Anyway, I can trade him Dorcas' iron axe later.

Chapter 13 — In Search of Truth:

10 turns. Would've been 9 but Hector missed Boies the first time on a 75 chance.

Had Marcus carry Matthew to Guy, the logistics of which I was unsure of with the reinforcements spawning next to him and Matthew not allowed to fight, but Guy kindly moved in closer as soon as Matthew was dropped. Guy got his first two kills with the iron sword formerly belonging to Matthew, finishing a bandit and doubling a soldier. Haven't used the killing edge yet!

Hector walked across the river (I felt so clever) and bought more hand axes, Bartre got the torch and a few kills, frustratingly ending the level at 99 EXP because he missed the final blow on the last enemy of the map. Oh yeah, Hector is level 7 and looking good, while Marcus had an amazing level-up of one HP point.

Hector still does not have an iron axe. My lesson for this level was to take care of weapon trading at the beginning.

edited 11th Jul '11 12:17:23 AM by montagohalcyon

Only the sun has stopped.
Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Sailing the Skies!
#3: Jul 11th 2011 at 4:55:58 AM

By the by guys, I'll probably be starting the draft a bit late since I want to finish the current file of Radiant Dawn that I'm doing. That okay?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13239183440B34964700 Alfric's Fire Emblem Liveblog Encyclopedia!
Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#4: Jul 11th 2011 at 6:17:58 AM

I'm having trouble finding the save file mentioned...that, or I'm using it wrong...anybody got a link?

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hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#5: Jul 11th 2011 at 6:46:29 AM

I said the wrong site. It wasn't at Serenes, it was actually at Grandbell. Just change the name to whatever game but with a 1 at the end and load the state.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
Beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#6: Jul 11th 2011 at 6:55:51 AM

So, uh, I'm curious. What's this topic about?

Welcome to th:|
hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#7: Jul 11th 2011 at 8:43:22 AM

I'd say reading the OP would help.

Anyway, I've completed Chapters 11 and 12 with the write ups in my liveblog. No stats or screenshots though.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#8: Jul 11th 2011 at 9:12:54 AM

[up][up] A draft is a competition of sorts. We will beat Fire Emblem in Hector Normal Mode with a restricted number of characters (where Hector and Athos are free for all, and Marcus is free for the first chapters, but gets banned halfway through)

In the main Fire Emblem thread, we drafted teams of 6 (with a few restrictions, like banning Karla, or making Karel and Harken the same character, just so the numbers would fit), and we're now trying to beat the game with only those characters. Undrafted units cannot fight or visit villages, nor can they rescue drafted characters. They can only meatshield, trade items and shop. Matthew can freely do thievery stuff, that's an exception we agreed on.

The winner is the one who took least turns.

That's the basic gist of it. Now, as for my playthrough:

Kapitel 11 - Noch eine Reise

...Because I'm playing in German (need to practice). And by the way, did you know that "Beil" means "Hatchet" in German? And the Hand Axe is called "Wurfbeil", that is, "Disposable Hatchet". This is so awesome.

Hector took the lower route, using mainly his Wurfbeil to get rid of archers, while Matthew hid in a safe corner. The armour knight slowed Hector a slight bit, forcing him to use the Wolfbeil, but no biggie. He even got an awesome level up, everything but Res.

Soon enough, Hector got a clear route to Wire, while Matthew snuck in and stole a Feuer Juwel (Fire Jewel), that cheeky thief waii Wire, just to spite me, decided to use a vulnerary instead of attacking and killing himself on his turn. Bastard.

Total turns: 8

Kapitel 12 - Gleich und Gleich...

Unusually tricky, this chapter was. Hector moved for the northern woods with his Wurfbeil to take care of that bandit and a few Peg knights, while Oswin had Hector's back covered (not missing a single Javelin. Man, I love Oswin).

Meanwhile, Marcus the Rittmeister easily cleared the southern half of the map with nothing but axes (courtesy of the fighters). I had to skip that Secret Book, though, I had nobody to fetch it.

After the frontlines were dealt with, and only Zagan and a couple of bandits remained, Matthew moved for the armory. Marcus, being the upstanding Rittmeister that he is, took the Red Gem and went shopping himself. Two lances, two axes were enough. Also, Lowen got to buy two vulneraries.

Why did I send Marcus to do the shopping? Why, because Hector would attack Zagan and potentially critical him in this very turn. If he didn't, he and Oswin would easily kill him the next one.

...But it wasn't so simple. Hector missed with a ~60% chance of hit, but Zagan hit Hector with a ~40% chance. That's the second boss who's trolling me. When Zagan attacked the next turn (and this time, he was in a forest), he missed and I hit him. HA! evil grin

The very next turn, Matthew returned Marcus' weapons and is now holding all that shopping (with Serra holding Matthew's old sword). Hector's situation against Zagan seemed grim, but here comes Oswin! To save th- oh, he missed sad

It is up to Hector now. Hector must hit twice AND dodge at least once in order to kill Zagan in this turn. He could use a vulnerary, or retreat like a little girl and wait for Marcus the following turn, but German Hector runs from no foe! Hector valiantly attacks and proudly takes Zagan's counter, being left standing with 2 HP. Zagan then prepares to deal the finishing blow and...misses! Hector counters and hits, slaying Zagan by himself after a very hard-fought battle cool

Total turns: 5

edited 11th Jul '11 9:16:48 AM by JonnasN

Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#9: Jul 11th 2011 at 9:15:32 AM

I'm working on getting my thingy to run now. I should have the first chapter or two done by today.

EDIT: Got it working. Starting up file as I type. I forget, does the Birth Month do anything? And can we put the list of who has who in OP for easy reference?

edited 11th Jul '11 9:20:55 AM by Xiphoniii

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#10: Jul 11th 2011 at 9:31:48 AM

Only changes your affinity. Characters with the same affinity get minor boosts in hit, dodge, critical, etc.

...That might be why Oswin is always so awesome with me. I was born in October.

montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Rook
#11: Jul 11th 2011 at 9:31:57 AM

[up][up]Units with the same affinity as the tactician birth month get a small bonus to accuracy, avoid, and crit evade. Relevant info can be found here, look under "character base stats" for their affinities and "calculations" for how it works.

I usually use my real birth month (July; coincidentally my birthday is in 6 days!), but this time I took April; Thunder element boosts Hector and Bartre, who probably need the increased accuracy/avoid most.

[up][up][up]This all seems so much more awesome in German.

edited 11th Jul '11 9:33:52 AM by montagohalcyon

Only the sun has stopped.
Barrylocke Reaching the Future, the hard way from Thracia Since: Aug, 2009
Reaching the Future, the hard way
#12: Jul 11th 2011 at 9:33:17 AM

@alfric, there's no real time limit to when you finish. The timelimit on the draft process was mainly so that we could begin in a timely manner, but now it's on you. Play when you can, post when you can.

Taking a break from FE1, for the FE8 draft instead
Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Sailing the Skies!
#13: Jul 11th 2011 at 9:36:27 AM

Alright then. I'll start a Liveblog for mine, so that this topic isn't too heavily filled with chapter reviews. I'll start it in a little while.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13239183440B34964700 Alfric's Fire Emblem Liveblog Encyclopedia!
Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#14: Jul 11th 2011 at 9:43:36 AM

Chapter 11: 9 turns. Took a little longer cause I wanted to level Matt on the archers a little bit. Low path. Left the upper archer.

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montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Rook
#15: Jul 11th 2011 at 10:02:22 AM

Aw nuts, I fail at predicting. I was expecting you'd finish in 4 turns or something with Matthew able to help clear the upper path. You'll probably make it up next chapter with all the axe users he can fight though.

Having only Hector up there sucked, I forgot most of the enemies start at his end on Hector Mode and Marcus can't do all the work. Either use the hand axe and the pegasus knights escape to heal, or the Wolf Biel and he can't counter-kill the archers and bandits.

Only the sun has stopped.
Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#16: Jul 11th 2011 at 10:21:16 AM

Augh, stop being so squishy Matt! I send him in to take out an archer, and a spearman or a lucky axe user sneaks in and kicks his ass....

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Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Sailing the Skies!
#17: Jul 11th 2011 at 10:34:48 AM

I've just started my Liveblog here, so check it out if any of you guys are interested. I've only just beaten Another Journey, but I'll be getting some more up soon.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13239183440B34964700 Alfric's Fire Emblem Liveblog Encyclopedia!
Barrylocke Reaching the Future, the hard way from Thracia Since: Aug, 2009
Reaching the Future, the hard way
#18: Jul 11th 2011 at 11:10:37 AM

Shit, I went for the southern path in chapter 13 instead of the northern, forgetting that bandits can destroy villages. Northern might be the faster route anyways, so i might as well try that chapter again.

I'm trying to only reset when I lose a person or am unable to follow the rules, to make it interesting. There's a good chance that I'll probably let a nondraftee die along the way.

Taking a break from FE1, for the FE8 draft instead
JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#19: Jul 11th 2011 at 11:19:52 AM

[up]x8: I know, right? I just finished Chapter 13, and the Killing Edge is called "Schnitter", which literally means "Cutter", but Google translates to "Reaper". So awesome.

I may as well start a liveblog as well. Look for the German-titled one (Feuer Emblem).

edited 11th Jul '11 11:20:08 AM by JonnasN

Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#20: Jul 11th 2011 at 2:41:44 PM

I'm pretty much shoving non drafted characters into a corner, after confiscating everything.

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Barrylocke Reaching the Future, the hard way from Thracia Since: Aug, 2009
Reaching the Future, the hard way
#21: Jul 12th 2011 at 12:24:58 AM

Finished Chapter 13. I'll give it a liveblog update soon. It'll probably have a few less pictures because I forgot to do that many screenshots when I replayed the chapter.

Taking a break from FE1, for the FE8 draft instead
montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Rook
#22: Jul 12th 2011 at 11:02:20 AM

I haven't posted chapter 13x yet because, one, I'm trying to turn my notes into something readable, and, two, I'm now deciding if I should do this as a liveblog like 4/6 people now are.

In the mean time, I've made a tally of everyone's stated turncounts thus far:

  • Chapter 11

  • hnd 03.................? turns
  • Alfric....................8 turns
  • Barrylocke...........? turns
  • Xiphoniii...............9 turns
  • montagohalcyon..8 turns
  • Jonnas N.............8 turns

  • Chapter 12

  • hnd 03.................7 turns
  • Alfric....................
  • Barrylocke...........10 turns
  • Xiphoniii...............
  • montagohalcyon..6 turns
  • Jonnas N.............5 turns

  • Chapter 13

  • hnd 03.................16 turns
  • Alfric....................
  • Barrylocke...........
  • Xiphoniii...............
  • montagohalcyon..10 turns
  • Jonnas N.............7 turns

Apparently, having German characters is a significant advantage. Also, formatting this on the Web so it lines up without tabs is a pain.

edited 12th Jul '11 11:13:47 AM by montagohalcyon

Only the sun has stopped.
hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#23: Jul 12th 2011 at 11:08:29 AM

Whatever the highest for chapter 11 is, add 3 turns for mine. Is that fair?

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Rook
#24: Jul 12th 2011 at 11:10:17 AM

Nah, we can just fill it in at the end when the game says your turncount per chapter.

Only the sun has stopped.
hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#25: Jul 12th 2011 at 11:16:22 AM

The problem is, it won't save my progress. Your saves are still there though. So I'm relying on save states to keep progress, which means I can't access my records at the end.

It's not a problem with your save file. All of your stuff is still there, it's an emulator problem.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson

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