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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190351: May 24th 2017 at 7:19:28 AM

[up] I also want them to win for the more immediate practical benefits. If/when the AHCA gets sent back to the House for a vote, it would definitely help to have a few more Democratic Reps.

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#190352: May 24th 2017 at 7:26:46 AM

Now for some not so good news.

President Proposes $2.55 Billion FY 18 Budget for National Park Service.

This disturbs me, because this is actually a budget cut, they're dressing up like an improvement.

https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1207/05-23-2017-budget-proposal.htm

edited 24th May '17 7:29:28 AM by megaeliz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190353: May 24th 2017 at 7:29:50 AM

[up] Eh, he's cutting just about everything but military spending. This is not a surprise, nor is it even the worst part of his awful budget proposal.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#190354: May 24th 2017 at 7:39:04 AM

[up]And even there, he is cutting benefits for veterans and serving military-par for course.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#190355: May 24th 2017 at 7:57:28 AM

Trump family meets the pope.

Look at that picture. Nobody wants to be there except for the Donald.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#190356: May 24th 2017 at 7:59:51 AM

Of course Donald wants to be there. There's cameras.

The women look like they're in mourning.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#190357: May 24th 2017 at 8:02:55 AM

His Holiness looks so done with this shit.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#190358: May 24th 2017 at 8:02:57 AM

I have never seen Pope Francis so pissed in my entire life.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#190359: May 24th 2017 at 8:08:12 AM

"Using all my charges of Smite Evil on the Mafia may have been a mistake."

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#190360: May 24th 2017 at 8:08:59 AM

[up][up]Well, there was the time when he fought with the mayor of Buenos Aires (our current president) for allowing gay people to marry*. Francis was very angry then.

  • not exactly legalizing gay marriage (that happened nationwide the year after), but basically thanks to a judicial loophole in the city of Buenos Aires' laws, gay people were allowed to marry by judge order if the government of the city didn't fight it in court, and the now-president gave the order to not fight those appeals (effectively allowing homosexual marriage).

edited 24th May '17 8:09:21 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#190361: May 24th 2017 at 8:31:16 AM

Expect Trump to parrot the Pope's advice and positions for all of two weeks before someone else impresses him.

edited 24th May '17 8:31:30 AM by CaptainCapsase

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#190362: May 24th 2017 at 8:39:03 AM

Well, there's probably not a lot of colors that are considered "ok" to be meeting the pope in?? I'm not exactly up on the protocol of meeting with the head of one of the oldest religious organizations in the world.

And I'm pretty sure Pope Francis would have a lot to say. Not even about the gay marriage thing, about Trump's remarkably uncharitable behavior in general. Sadly, it will probably make Trump's heart grow three sizes. Plus, the oft remarked observation that Trump basically listen to the last person in the room, and the pope generally isn't that guy.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#190363: May 24th 2017 at 8:45:09 AM

[up]I think wearing black is the standard protocol for meeting the Pope. There might be exceptions for Queens of Catholic countries who gets to wear white.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#190364: May 24th 2017 at 8:46:01 AM

[up][up][up]4 days, tops. I refuse to believe his attention span extends beyond that outside lining his pockets.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#190365: May 24th 2017 at 8:48:19 AM

[up][up][up] Oh he'll take the Pope's advice to heart. For like a week. Remember when he met with Obama, and starred parroting his talking points for like a day or two?

edited 24th May '17 8:48:37 AM by CaptainCapsase

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190366: May 24th 2017 at 8:56:34 AM

Yeah, Pope Francis isn't going to leave any long-lasting positive effect on Trump.

Expect Trump's approval rating to rise anyway because the Pope didn't try to to exorcise him on the spot.

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#190367: May 24th 2017 at 8:57:49 AM

[up] like Rationalinsanity said, he used all his Smite Evils on the media.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190368: May 24th 2017 at 9:02:19 AM

The GOP's strategy to win the special elections and the midterms? Point the finger at Pelosi again.

Now that "Thanks Obama" and "But Hillary" are out of date, they are going back to painting all Democratic candidates as Pelosi pawns again. They are counting on the GOP base's fear of Pelosi's "San Francisco liberal values".

edited 24th May '17 9:04:06 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#190369: May 24th 2017 at 9:11:27 AM

I mean, she has been there for a while. Could be time for newer blood.

But the GOP would go after any prominent Dem. But I'm not sure that playing up her social liberalism will rally the base, and it might backfire with swing voters.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#190370: May 24th 2017 at 9:14:45 AM

[up] I'm more inclined to think they're looking to twist the knife in the schism between the left and center-left wings of the party. I expect a fair amount of red-baiting targeted at the center leaning elements of the party to crop up as well.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#190371: May 24th 2017 at 9:19:41 AM

We've seen that playing up the divisions between factions of the Democratic Party has been successful in the past. Why stop a winning strategy?

Corollary: it would be nice if the American Left stopped doing the Republicans' dirty work for them.

edited 24th May '17 9:20:07 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190372: May 24th 2017 at 9:25:42 AM

@Rationalinsanity

Maybe getting new blood would be a good idea...which is why the Sanders' supporters decided a racist and out of touch 71 year old white guy was the perfect candidate to primary Pelosi.

edited 24th May '17 9:28:39 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#190373: May 24th 2017 at 9:31:56 AM

Are they still considered "Sanders Supporters"? It seems like they've gained more prominence than the man himself at this point.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190374: May 24th 2017 at 9:32:58 AM

[up] True, it might be The Artifact at this point.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#190375: May 24th 2017 at 9:34:20 AM

I still laugh at people who call House Dems status quo, especially Pelosi.

FFS, the House passed Obamacare WITH the public option....with dozens of Centrists who voted for it too.

New Survey coming this weekend!

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