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 75701 Deviant Braeburn, Tue, 18th Mar '14 4:04:50 PM from Dysfunctional California
 75702 KBSL, Tue, 18th Mar '14 5:43:46 PM Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
[up][up][up]Louisiana is like second in poverty only to Mississippi last time I checked, so how he really thinks he has the right to criticize anyone on exasperating it remarkable.
 
Hmmm...
So the governor of a high poverty state shouldn't talk about poverty? It isn't like he impoverished Louisiana himself.

 75704 Native Jovian, Wed, 19th Mar '14 5:36:45 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
It's pretty hypocritical to criticize someone for a problem that you have even worse than they do. It's like criticizing someone for fire hazards in their house while your house is in the process of burning down; it doesn't matter if it's your fault, you should probably deal with your own shit before you start mouthing off to other people.

Not to mention that what Jindal was actually talking about is his school voucher program, which is pretty much complete bullshit. It's an attempt to privatize the education system, and undermine public schools by reducing their funding. Pretty standard right-wing tactics of crippling something with legislation, then pointing at its failures as reasoning to get rid of it entirely — nevermind the fact that it would have performed much better if they hadn't crippled it in the first place.
 75705 Achaemenid, Wed, 19th Mar '14 5:41:45 AM from Glasgow Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Wir sind die Panzerjäger
It's pretty hypocritical to criticize someone for a problem that you have even worse than they do.

Agreed, with the proviso that if you are actually fixing your problem and your target is not, then you aren't hypocritical.
 75706 KBSL, Wed, 19th Mar '14 6:59:03 AM Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
Yeah, besides, I didn't say he was the reason for all the problem, just that he hasn't really helped make it better, something he was criticizing someone else about.

So, basically what [up] said.
 
 75707 Deviant Braeburn, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:43:35 PM from Dysfunctional California
 75708 optimusjamie, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:48:28 PM from Mega-City One Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Is it wrong that I think of Judge Dredd whenever the Justice Department is mentioned?
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 75709 Fighteer, Wed, 19th Mar '14 3:04:04 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Yes, it is wrong. They are not nearly that awesome. grin
Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 75710 Pykrete, Wed, 19th Mar '14 9:21:26 PM from Viridian Forest
NOT THE BEES
They're less like Dredd and more like Fergie.

 75711 Radical Taoist, Thu, 20th Mar '14 2:43:02 AM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
Radioactive dump site found in North Dakota town.

The latest NSA data vacuuming program will collect phone calls and store them for up to a month, allowing the NSA to search through past communications.

From the New York Times: Pentagon finds U.S. Navy Yard shootings could have been prevented. A key point:
The independent review called the overall security process at Pentagon installations outdated, with too much focus on keeping a secure perimeter against outside threats and not enough on examining the potential threats from people granted secret-level clearance to enter the installations. The review recommended that the Pentagon examine the number of people with security clearances and consider revoking at least 10 percent of them.

Mr. Hagel said the reviews found “troubling gaps” in the Defense Department’s “ability to detect, prevent and respond to instances where someone working for us — a government employee, member of our military, or a contractor — decides to inflict harm on this institution and its people.”

Also from the New York Times, Rand Paul compares surveillance under Obama administration to the FBI surveillance of MLK Jr. in an outreach speech to college students.

Texans go nuts on Facebook when a dust storm referred to by the Arabic word 'haboob' by a TV news channel report.

In your Charlie Pierce for today, Charlie aptly finds the problem with pundits, especially those threatened by data-driven commentators like Nate Silver. Charlie has commentary on the stories I've linked above, as well.
I wonder if in the same vein of changing “french fries" to “freedom fries, ” these Arab haters will now call alcohol, “Texas juice” or rename algebra to, “that thing I failed in school.”

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 75713 Deviant Braeburn, Thu, 20th Mar '14 10:21:17 AM from Dysfunctional California
 75714 Xopher 001, Thu, 20th Mar '14 11:25:26 AM from 38.5061° N, 76.5177° W Relationship Status: In season
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Unfortunately that's a logical fallacy. But it's not really important
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 75715 Fighteer, Thu, 20th Mar '14 11:35:39 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Compared to the ones being used to criticize him, it's trivial. What I do protest is the relatively weak defense of his actions. A better response would be, "Considering the utter joke that the Republican Party has become in America, any criticism they offer of my actions as President is comparable to the village idiot calling out a respected scientist for failing to tie his shoe."

edited 20th Mar '14 11:36:06 AM by Fighteer

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 75716 Deviant Braeburn, Thu, 20th Mar '14 12:29:45 PM from Dysfunctional California
 75717 De Marquis, Thu, 20th Mar '14 1:52:10 PM from Hell, USA Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
That's too bad, for awhile there it was looking hopeful.
“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”
 75718 Ogodei, Thu, 20th Mar '14 1:53:54 PM from stalking Sakaki
go on, pet him
I don't see why it would have slowed down, unless the Crimean thing is stopping Russia from doing it's part.

 75719 Le Garcon, Thu, 20th Mar '14 2:10:13 PM from Skadovsk Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Russia's said it'll mess with any sanctions imposed on Iran and it'll probably send them more parts for their program.
Oh really, when?
 75720 Xopher 001, Thu, 20th Mar '14 2:16:00 PM from 38.5061° N, 76.5177° W Relationship Status: In season
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Someone explain to me why people equate nuclear power plants with nuclear bombs, and if there really is a threat of Iran getting nukes. I'm real skeptical because of how Iraq was supposed to have had WM Ds ten years ago
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 75721 Fighteer, Thu, 20th Mar '14 2:19:13 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
I think we have more topical threads for that conversation. Suffice it to say that Iran is a known sponsor of terrorism and has repeatedly threatened to deploy weapons of mass destruction against Israel and other neighbors. It's a bully, and about the only way it can get any worse is if it has nukes to back up its threats.

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 75722 Deviant Braeburn, Thu, 20th Mar '14 2:27:17 PM from Dysfunctional California
 75723 Fighteer, Thu, 20th Mar '14 2:28:34 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
The contempt for the poor among Republicans never ceases, does it?

edited 20th Mar '14 2:28:53 PM by Fighteer

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 75724 Septimus Heap, Thu, 20th Mar '14 2:29:45 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I notice that nowhere in the article it's said that it violates federal law. Which makes it an act of unconvincing political theatre.

 75725 Greenmantle, Thu, 20th Mar '14 2:44:41 PM from Albion Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
@ Xopher: Some forms of Nuclear plants can be used to enrich Uranium which is then used for Nuclear Weapons.
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