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Polarity Nightmare Fetishist from Caracas, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: If the gov't can read my mind, they know I'm thinking of you
#1: Jul 6th 2011 at 4:51:41 PM

Ok look, I am bored and demotivated, looking for a job and all, and I have these 3 PS 2 games left to play. See, since I borrowed this PS 2 for over a year, playing all the classics, I wanna end it with a bang.

So here are the 3 games:

Final Fantasy X-2

Kingdom Hearts 2

Final Fantasy 12

I have made some progress on X2, but I hate the characters and story so far, so I don't know if I should keep playing them.

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#2: Jul 6th 2011 at 4:52:54 PM

Out of those 3, Kingdom Hearts 2 definitely.

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Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#3: Jul 6th 2011 at 5:05:29 PM

Depends. What kind of gamer are you?
If you get bored with one game, can you come back to it after another, or do you lose interest completely and fail to come back at all after moving on?

If you can come back after getting bored, start with FF XII. Its actually a good game with lots of fun bits, but there's some less fun bits that tend to repel most players. What I did was, whenever I got bored, I would move on to something else and come back later.

If you can do that, go FF XII, KH II (this being the game you go to when XII gets boring) and end it with X-2...
Or skip X-2 and play Dark Cloud instead...

I need to play Dark Cloud again...

Or skip Dark Cloud and go for the even better sequel, Dark Cloud 2 / Dark Chronicle.

edited 6th Jul '11 5:08:49 PM by Zeromaeus

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Mammalsauce Since: Mar, 2010
#4: Jul 6th 2011 at 5:17:55 PM

FFXII is pretty decent but the other two are lousy games. If you're the sort of person who would enjoy all of them then just pick one. None of them are good enough to end anything with a bang.

edited 6th Jul '11 5:18:36 PM by Mammalsauce

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#5: Jul 6th 2011 at 5:40:04 PM

I'd argue that Kingdom Hearts II is a really good game...
FFXII is a really good game bogged down by... stuff...
FFX-2 is a game...

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GIG Forever livid from Where I want to be Since: Feb, 2010
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#6: Jul 6th 2011 at 5:43:23 PM

FFX-2 is a very mechanically sound game, with what I feel is the best battle system in the Final Fantasy series. But trust me when I say the story and characters a very hit and miss.

I'd say go with KH 2 and FFXII first and then see if you can deal with X-2

edited 6th Jul '11 5:44:14 PM by GIG

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#7: Jul 6th 2011 at 5:45:36 PM

You should be playing Shadow Hearts.

In all seriousness though, X-2 requires a faq by your side if you don't want to miss a lot.

FFXII and Kingdom Hearts 2 are both good games. I'd say KH 2 is more fun overall, but FFXII has Fran. Decisions, decisions.

WildKnight Black Knight from the wasteland. Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Jul 6th 2011 at 5:48:33 PM

Kingdom Hearts II is a pretty mindless game, and it's really not much of an exaggeration to say you can beat it just by mashing X and Triangle all game, but that said its battle system is still pretty fun and was the best in the series until Birth by Sleep came out.

Final Fantasy XII requires a lot more thought and an open mind about how to approach both the gameplay systems and Final Fantasy in general. It also, from my experience, necessitates a lot of Level Grinding, but I always wondered if that was something that could be fixed with proper Gambit setups.

Final Fantasy X-2, as someone said, has an awesome battle system, but you really have to learn to be shameless and devil-may-care in order to not feel like a Dirty Old Man. It also really kind of requires a guide in order to make any sort of sense in both story and gameplay, too.

So I dunno what you're really looking for, but I hope that helps.

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#9: Jul 6th 2011 at 5:50:08 PM

Screw the sequels (even though I love them, for different reasons) and play XII for a satisfying experience without any need to understand continuity and stuff. At least, that's what I think.

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Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#10: Jul 6th 2011 at 6:15:40 PM

@Wild Knight: Grinding was only really necessary in XII when dealing with marks. A good gambit set-up and up-to-date weaponry are about all you need to beat the main story. That said, the main story is only about half the game, so grinding is going to happen.

@topic: With XII, I recommend looking up a guide, if just to figure out which chests not to open. The Infinity Plus One Lance can only be acquired by either not opening certain containers or from a chest with a less than 0.01% chance to appear...

edited 6th Jul '11 6:17:13 PM by Zeromaeus

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Recon5 Avvie-free for life! from Southeast Asia Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Jul 6th 2011 at 6:25:11 PM

Eh... I'd recommend not looking at a guide for whichever of the games you decide to pick up. You can usually finish the game without all the ultimate stuff and that's all that matters for the first playthrough.

YoungMachete from Dallas Since: May, 2011
#12: Jul 6th 2011 at 6:33:06 PM

Uhm. None of the above? I'm not a fan of any of those 3, although I do have to say play KH 2 on proud mode if you want some decent gameplay at least.

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Legionnaire The Leading Man from Australia Since: Oct, 2010
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#13: Jul 6th 2011 at 6:36:26 PM

I'd say KH 2 is more fun overall, but FFXII has Balthier the Sky Pirate. Decisions, decisions.

Fix'd that for you.

edited 6th Jul '11 6:36:38 PM by Legionnaire

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Polarity Nightmare Fetishist from Caracas, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: If the gov't can read my mind, they know I'm thinking of you
#14: Jul 6th 2011 at 8:13:11 PM

Hmm... I found that I liked X2s gameplay, but God... The story is atrocious, which is why is why I stopped playing it.

MY defintition of bang is... You know, something to remember the ps2 gaming as a good thing. I have had lots of fun with this console, and I wanna keep it that way. I wanna save the best for last.

I guess I should start with x2, huh?

But between KH 2 and FF 12... I know about the combat system in KH 2 because I tried playing it, but told myself I would not play it 'till I completed Chain of Memories (Which I did). But I am unfamiliar with FF 12's combat.

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#15: Jul 6th 2011 at 9:10:40 PM

FFXII is a really good game bogged down by... stuff... FFX-2 is a game...
I agree with both of these points. I don't think you'll find anyone willing to disagree with the second one, in fact.

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#16: Jul 6th 2011 at 9:17:00 PM

If you really want to end it with a bang, play Dark Chronicle. Great game. Seriously. If I could only keep one of my PS 2 titles, it would be Dark Chronicle.
Good game. Best JRPG.

Ooh, or Atelier Iris. I've only played Iris 1, but it rocked.

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#17: Jul 6th 2011 at 9:18:38 PM

*Just realized his recent purchase of a PS 2 means he can finally buy every Final Fantasy game short of XIII now*

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#19: Jul 6th 2011 at 9:52:42 PM

So I'll download them on my PSP for the price of lunch.

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Legionnaire The Leading Man from Australia Since: Oct, 2010
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#20: Jul 6th 2011 at 9:54:49 PM

Jesus, that's an expensive lunch. Either it's really good or you're being ripped off.

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Recon5 Avvie-free for life! from Southeast Asia Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Jul 6th 2011 at 10:58:00 PM

Well, they're widely regarded as classics. That's enough for at least a 50% inflation on the RRP and I believe it can go to more than 100%.

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#22: Jul 6th 2011 at 11:04:23 PM

Well, I can't say what you should play. But it doesn't seem that FFX-2 would be a good idea.

Personally, I'd pick FFXII. KH2 is nice and all, but sadly it turned to be not what I expected, due to it's popularity, but rather what I would have expected, if I only the premise. A fun little game, but hardly anything that I would play through more than once.

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PsychoFreaX Card-Carrying Villain >:D from Transcended Humanity Since: Jan, 2010
#23: Jul 7th 2011 at 5:43:57 AM

All three Square Enix games I see.

If you want mainstream mindless button masher then KH2.

If you want at least a little challenge then FFXII. Not likely you.

If you like watching girls get change. Well, you know which one.

edited 7th Jul '11 5:45:20 AM by PsychoFreaX

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Aminatep Vulpes Zerda from Glorious Mother Russia Since: Oct, 2009
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#24: Jul 7th 2011 at 6:01:45 AM

> If you like watching girls get change.

Imagery in my head: a hobo girl asking for some spare change.

...

I would play that!

edited 7th Jul '11 6:02:01 AM by Aminatep

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#25: Jul 7th 2011 at 7:05:26 AM

Wait, maybe I forgot the price of those on the PSN. Whatever, it's not huge.

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