Murdoch's newspaper under investigation in Britain:

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1 BlueNinja06th Jul 2011 11:57:50 AM from My Favorite Spot on the Citadel , Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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Not for anything important, just little crimes like invasion of privacy, phone hacking, interfering in an active investigation, and bribery.

Some emphasis added by me.
London (CNN) — Media baron Rupert Murdoch broke his silence on a scandal swirling around his flagship British Sunday tabloid newspaper Wednesday, calling allegations that journalists illegally hacked into the voice mails of murder and terror victims "deplorable and unacceptable."

The head of News Corporation issued the statement after the father of a bomb victim said his phone may have been hacked and Prime Minister David Cameron called the allegations "absolutely disgusting."

Graham Foulkes, whose son was killed in a 2005 London terror attack, said Wednesday his phone number and home address were found in the files of a private investigator working for the News of the World.

The accusation follows allegations that journalists also hacked into the phone messages of missing teenager Milly Dowler, who was later found to have been murdered.

Police launched a special investigation this year into accusations of widespread phonehacking by News of the World, targeting politicians and celebrities. Actor Hugh Grant told CNN Wednesday police had visited him as part of their investigation.

Now, following allegations this week that the paper also illegally eavesdropped on murder victims and the families of people killed in terrorist bombings, Cameron said an independent inquiry was needed.

"We are no longer talking about politicians and celebrities but murder victims, potentially terrorist victims. It's absolutely disgusting what has taken place," Cameron said in the House of Commons. "I think everyone in this house and country will be revolted by what they've heard and seen on their TV screens."

But Cameron said the inquiry could not begin until after the police investigation was done, for fear of interfering with it.

News International, which owns News of the World, said it welcomed "calls for a broad public inquiry into standards and practices in the industry."

Separately, London's Metropolitan Police said Wednesday they were opening an investigation into the possible bribery of police officers by people working for the News International media group.

Papers given to the Metropolitan Police by News International lawyers "include information relating to alleged inappropriate payments to a small number of... officers," Commissioner Paul Stephenson said in a statement Wednesday.

News International — which owns News of the World and is part of Murdoch's $60 billion News Corporation — confirmed it had given police paperwork related to the possible bribery, calling the handover evidence of its "determination as a company to deal responsibly and correctly with the issues."

The company also said Wednesday it was "shocked and appalled at any serious allegations with regards to victims of crime."

"Our company must fully and proactively cooperate with the police in all investigations and that is exactly what News International has been doing and will continue to do under Rebekah Brooks' leadership," Murdoch said in his separate statement.

A senior police officer involved in the phonehacking investigation called Graham Foulkes Tuesday to say his details were in the files of a private investigator working for the News of the World, the terror victim's father said Wednesday.

Foulkes's son David was among the 52 people killed on July 7, 2005, when suicide bombers hit three London Underground trains and a bus.

Foulkes said police did not tell him whether his phone had been hacked, but the possibility horrified him, he said. London's Metropolitan Police refused to comment Wednesday on the issue.

"We'd obviously been having very intimate and detailed personal conversations, so to think now that these people may have been listening in to that at such an important time, such a dark and difficult time, is quite unbelievable," Foulkes said.

He and his wife had just been talking about "how horrendous it must have been" for the Dowler family "to be told that someone had been listening in to them," when he learned that he, too, might have been a victim of phonehacking, he told CNN affiliate ITV.

If the allegations of hacking are true, he said, the perpetrators "need to be punished, and punished severely."

He called on News International to be truthful and honest about what happened and "put their hands up and say we're sorry."

Labour party leader Ed Miliband said Brooks, the chief executive of News International, should resign in the face of what he called "the biggest press scandal in modern times."

Cameron refused to back the opposition leader in his call for head of Brooks, who was previously editor of News of the World, saying it would be fairer to let the investigation run its course.

Murdoch's statement suggests he is standing by Brooks.

Phonehacking involves calling a phone from two other phones at the same time, sending one caller to voice mail. That caller then enters the code number to retrieve voice mail remotely. Hackers depend on the fact that many people never change the default PIN for voice mail retrieval.

Initial complaints about hacking came from politicians and celebrities, but the story took a new turn Tuesday with the accusation that the paper hacked into the voice mails of the murdered girl.

"The family are completely horrified. They thought this was all over" after the disappearance of Milly Dowler in 2002 and the conviction of a man for her murder this year, Dowler family lawyer Mark Lewis said Tuesday.

But in April, police told the Dowlers that journalists had hacked into their phones and those of their daughter, he said.

Journalists deleted some of Milly Dowler's messages to make space for more, thus giving her parents hope she was still alive when she was dead, Lewis said.

The paper has apologized for hacking into the voice mails of celebrities and politicians, paying compensation to actress Sienna Miller and offering money to others.

But the Dowler case is the first time the newspaper is accused of interfering with a police investigation.

Police have declined to say publicly whether Milly Dowler was among the victims of phone hacking.

News International executives met with British police Tuesday over the claims, the company told CNN.

Brooks told staff later Tuesday that it was "almost too horrific to believe that a professional journalist or even a freelance inquiry agent working on behalf of a member of the News of the World staff could behave in this way."

Brooks, who was editor of the paper at the time of the alleged Dowler hacking, told staff she was "sickened that these events are alleged to have happened."

CNN obtained a copy of the e-mail Brooks sent to staff on Tuesday. News International confirmed it was genuine.

Brooks acknowledges in the message that there is speculation she might resign, but said she was "determined to lead the company to ensure we do the right thing and resolve these serious issues."

At least five people have been arrested in connection with phone hacking investigations this year since a new investigation, Operation Weeting, was launched in January.

Private investigator Glenn Mulcaire and a journalist working for the News of the World were sent to prison in 2007 for hacking into the voice mails of royal staff in an earlier investigation.

Police launched the new investigation this year in response to widespread complaints from politicians, celebrities and other high-profile figures who fear they have been targets.

News International has apologized for unspecified cases of phone hacking. They say they have been cooperating with police since the new investigation was launched in January.

The Sunday tabloid newspaper in April offered compensation and "apologized unreservedly" for the "unacceptable" hacking. It did not name the victims.

News International owns the News of the World, plus the Sun, the Times and the Sunday Times in Britain.

Murdoch's media empire also encompasses Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post and Harper Collins publishers.
1) I disagree with the tone of the first statement, that somehow it's not as important if you're "only" hacking into the voice mail of a celebrity or a politician. While such people should be used to greater scrutiny due to their very public lives, that doesn't mean deliberately breaking what little privacy they do have left is less unethical.

2) Bribing the cops? I'm wondering if this was for inside scoops to publish, or to get them to look the other way, but either way it's still pretty scummy.

3) Deleting voice mail is pretty much straight Obstruction of Justice charges in the US. I'm not sure what the equivalent is in British law, but given that they've already had employees sent to jail over this, I'm hoping the company gets sued into the ground.

4) It's a companion of Fox News? I'm surprised it wasn't caught already. [grin]

inb4 Savage Heathen starts calling to murder all the cops involved
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2 mahel0426th Jul 2011 12:08:43 PM from Stockholm,Sweden
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@ point 1. I took it to mean that it's even more heinous when they are not targeting politicians and celebrities.
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3 pagad6th Jul 2011 12:40:35 PM from perfidious Albion , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Yes, this is currently causing a bit of a fuss in Parliament at the moment. There are currently calls for the government to re-examine the takeover of B Sky B (British Sky Broadcasting Group) by News Corporation.

What might not be evident to non-Britons is that Rupert Murdoch basically controls the political system here. Potential prime ministers kowtow to him before general elections to try and curry favour with him.

Journalists deleted some of Milly Dowler's messages to make space for more, thus giving her parents hope she was still alive when she was dead

Utterly unforgivable. Milly Dowler's case is still quite remembered here, so hopefully Not W's circulation will be adversely affected. Advertisers are already pulling out IIRC.

edited 6th Jul '11 12:54:41 PM by pagad

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4 CaissasDeathAngel6th Jul 2011 01:05:49 PM from Dumfries, SW Scotland , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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4. Perjury and "attempting/conspiring to pervert the course of justice" (that may not be the exact phrasing) would be our exact phrasing, I believe.

By the way, is it me, or do half the threads in OTC these days seem to be spun off from other threads?

[up] The fact that a conviction only came last week means it would be strange if it weren't still remembered!

edited 6th Jul '11 1:07:01 PM by CaissasDeathAngel

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7 pagad6th Jul 2011 01:39:06 PM from perfidious Albion , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up][up] I meant in the sense that the original story is well-remembered. I was only - 13? at the time and I remember the furore around it.
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Also, for some reason this isn't trending on twitter in any way shape or form. Dunno why.

Also, this.

edited 6th Jul '11 1:57:00 PM by revertedtozero

9 Michael6th Jul 2011 02:10:33 PM , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
So that's what this does
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10 pagad6th Jul 2011 02:26:41 PM from perfidious Albion , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Damn. We're kind of reliant on Morrisons.
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12 Silasw6th Jul 2011 03:16:24 PM from The UNITED Kingdom , Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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Anyone know for sure where News of the World is based?
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Interesting side effect: the Tommy Sheridan perjury case may now result in Andy Coulson being charged for perjury because he testified that there was no phone hacking going on and that finding old e-mails would be impossible and News International have just handed over a bunch of old e-mail that may show that Andy Coulson knew there was phone hacking going on.
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15 Inhopelessguy6th Jul 2011 04:14:55 PM from 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂 , Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
I'm going to assume that this means the pool of potential Murdoch-hat... I mean, anti-Murdoch people have joined the club?

On track: The bribery would explain why the investigation takes so long. So... why hasn't it sped up yet?

On another note: Why is he so powerful here? Why does an Australian, in America, control our soil? Who let him?
16 MajorTom6th Jul 2011 04:17:22 PM , Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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On another note: Why is he so powerful here? Why does an Australian, in America, control our soil? Who let him?

You did apparently. All of Britain did.
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17 pagad6th Jul 2011 04:18:42 PM from perfidious Albion , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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The bloody electorate does.

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edited 6th Jul '11 4:19:15 PM by pagad

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18 Inhopelessguy6th Jul 2011 04:21:21 PM from 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂 , Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Stupid electorate, and their stupid stupidity. First AV (actually first, Murdoch). Why? WHY?! Doth the UK electorate's stupidity know no bounds?

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19 Saeglopur6th Jul 2011 04:35:57 PM from Various places in the UK
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Obviously this is entirely disgraceful, and further proof that Murdoch is in fact Satan incarnate.

However, I'm more interested in the long term political repurcussions of this: it allowed Labour leader Ed Miliband to have an absolute field day during Prime Minister's Questions, as David Cameron continually refused to answer the question 'does the Prime Minister condemn these actions?', only going as far as replying 'we will be conducting a full inquiry'.

Miliband has also taken the brave step of actually attacking Murdoch and his lackies head on, calling for Rebekah Brooks of News International to resign and for Murdoch's takeover of BSkyB to be delayed. Cameron isn't about to agree to either. Cameron, who has always been backed by the Murdoch press and has friends in high places, so to speak, is already heavily implicated in the scandal, as his personal aide and close friend Andy Coulson has already been sacked and disgraced for his role in this debacle. This could really hurt the Conservatives and it's a much needed gift for Labour and for Ed Miliband.
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20 Inhopelessguy6th Jul 2011 04:39:43 PM from 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂 , Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
This appears to be the turning point for media expansion.
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This is funny. I just found my dad's old Howard Stern book, don't ask me how I know it's his, and there is a bit where he makes fun of Muroch. Coincidences are fun.

The bit about about deleting messages is kinda fucked up.
22 Inhopelessguy6th Jul 2011 04:48:29 PM from 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂 , Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
What I don't get is... why? Why did they hack the phones? For a scoop, yes. But why? To be on the edge?

edited 6th Jul '11 4:48:55 PM by Inhopelessguy

^ Information for a scoop. Stuff to make headlines.

Why else?
24 pagad6th Jul 2011 05:01:44 PM from perfidious Albion , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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I fully expect to wake up tomorrow to find that they hacked into the phones of murdered puppies.
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25 Inhopelessguy6th Jul 2011 05:03:34 PM from 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂 , Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
That's not realistic. It'd be Clement Atlee next.


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