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RegShoe Awfully negative from over there somewhere. Since: Feb, 2015
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#1: Jul 3rd 2011 at 11:39:21 AM

It is a joke about some Gallows. From the article "Gallows Humor is, by definition, from the perspective of the victim. If anyone else delivers it or actually trying to make the situation funny, it's Black Comedy." The victim of an execution is the person being executed, not the executioners.

What makes this more of an issue is that it is a fairly decent pun, making the potential for misleading people higher.

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#2: Jul 3rd 2011 at 11:57:48 AM

I second the pull, and suggest putting this on a rocket sled to the trope repair shop. Of the 14 examples I read, only two were using the trope correctly.

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#3: Jul 3rd 2011 at 5:18:08 PM

Please do. I don't know which examples you read, so you're the best person to do so. :)

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#5: Jul 9th 2011 at 6:43:48 AM

[up] You managed to break most of the UR Ls, and those last two that worked don't seem to fit the trope at all.

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#6: Aug 18th 2011 at 6:41:08 AM

I also vote to pull, on the grounds that it doesn't illustrate the trope.

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#7: Sep 1st 2011 at 8:16:31 AM

Fourthed and pulled. GIS turned up a lot of single-panel cartoons which we can't use...any ideas?

edited 1st Sep '11 8:44:38 AM by Willbyr

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#8: Oct 7th 2011 at 9:11:09 PM

A good place to start would be within the examples themselves.

For example, the third panel of this Penny Arcade strip. This was the first image I thought of from the title alone, because it's stuck with me for two years.

Or, the last panel of this Perry Bible Fellowship strip.

edited 7th Oct '11 9:13:13 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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#9: Oct 8th 2011 at 10:02:01 AM

Speaking of PBF how about that one with the midget clown? I can't remember the name.

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#10: Oct 8th 2011 at 10:59:00 AM

I couldn't find it. The binge I had last night was my first exposure to reading it, and not seeing it on a page image here.

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#11: Oct 8th 2011 at 1:38:17 PM

[up][up]"Gotcha the clown" and it's not very indicative without the whole thing.

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#12: Oct 8th 2011 at 3:46:35 PM

[up] Yeah, you'd need the whole thing for the full context, and that's not a very good example to start with.

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#14: Nov 1st 2011 at 6:00:12 PM

Again, how do I call for a vote to actually finish this? We've got some good image options.

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#15: Nov 1st 2011 at 7:32:50 PM

I don't know that any of the suggested pics fit closely enough to put up, honestly.

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#16: Nov 7th 2011 at 6:15:16 AM

I find the PBF one closest, as he's technically taking part in the hangman guessing. Or in the penny arcade, that Kiko is still deadpan snarking.

edited 7th Nov '11 6:20:44 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#17: Dec 7th 2011 at 12:44:37 PM

I think we could put up the Penny Arcade one, and caption it "Face death with deadpan snark", or something like that.

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#18: Dec 7th 2011 at 12:52:03 PM

Using the whole thing is verboten so panels 1 and 3.

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#20: Dec 7th 2011 at 1:12:27 PM

Oh yeah, you did. Duh.

If it's just panel 3, it feels contextless so the whole "you're about to get two [votes]" line feels borderline meaningless even with the saw. Do we not need to know why, just that it is?

edited 7th Dec '11 1:13:40 PM by treelo

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#21: Dec 9th 2011 at 9:59:30 PM

I find the third panel alone to be enough, but it could be better with one and three.

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#22: Dec 9th 2011 at 11:38:22 PM

Wait, is that even an example?

In the Penny Arcade strip, it's true that the victim seems pretty blase about the whole thing and it could count, but the comic is definitely suggesting that the comment "You're about to get two" is the focus of the gallows humor, and he's not the victim. Which is confusing and incorrect, since the article is clear that it has to be from the perspective of the victim.

And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know.
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#23: Jan 25th 2012 at 5:56:09 PM

I do think Gotcha could work with just the last panel.

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#25: Mar 11th 2012 at 3:34:03 PM

Gallows Humor is not necessarily "jokes having to do with gallows" and is definitely not "jokes told by an executioner". It is "character prefers to joke rather than be traumatized"; faced with something grim, laughing instead of crying.

edited 11th Mar '12 3:35:16 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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