So how are us Americans without Starz going to see it?
To Be Updated when I'm not LazyInternet, hopefully. I'll miss it on its air date anyway on account of being on a plane.
I'm pretty sure there will be a livefeed on this blog.
edited 30th Jun '11 2:45:44 PM by kainkenny
Kay: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.I recently started watching it, and i just saw "Cyberwoman". I don't know why everyone hates it, i thought it was a decent episode.
You lost!Torchwood HQ is under this fountain
I live 2 miles (3km) North of the Fountain.
Liberty! Equality! Fraternity!I like a lot of the later episodes (including those by that one's writer, Chris Chibnall), though it's been years and years since I saw Cyberwoman, just wondered what did you like about it?
Edit: Wait, the BBC National Orchestra is right on top of Torchwood Three? Wow!
edited 1st Jul '11 8:04:17 AM by OldManHoOh
I didn't find "Cyberwoman" completely terrible, but it was pretty dumb and probably the worst episode of the series. (I actually didn't really mind "Day One".)
I guess it is.What was so dum about it? The Cybewomen itself? It was said, that she was incomplete and a product of Desperation. I've heard far worse hand waves if this is what you're getting at.
edited 1st Jul '11 1:14:02 PM by ZheToralf
You lost!Her design itself wasn't bad, it's just the fact that the Cybermen did that form-fitting piece that really gets on people's gears. I dunno. It looks too precise to be a half-converted Cyberman.
Plus, I believe it was the first episode with focus on the coffeeboy. I love Ianto now, but I don't recall Cyberwoman being a great first judge of character.
edited 1st Jul '11 1:31:15 PM by OldManHoOh
Well yeah, that was old school comic type of camp I admitt. But that doesn't make a terrible episode.
You lost!True. It added, but on its own it didn't make or break it. Also, it was made in 2006 and is ostensibly more adult that Doctor Who's supposed to be so that probably goes under more scrutiny.
edited 1st Jul '11 1:33:15 PM by OldManHoOh
I thought the design was silly, and the dog piss monologue to be narmy, but I didn;t find it too terrible. It shares a lot of its DNA with Die Hard, which is no bad thing. It's also the only episode of the season to utlise throwaway elements of continuity in an interesting way, like Mffanwy the Pterodactly who gives me a pain because of all the silent letters, or the conection with the pizza place.
It came too early in the season though — putting characters in a high pressure environment works when we know what they're all like. Tosh was basically just a cypher at this point, and this was meant to be Ianto's proper introduction to the series. And the scene between Owen and Gwen in the mortuary is really unrealistic characterisation — no one's insane enough to act like that.
edited 3rd Jul '11 7:20:53 AM by Nicknacks
This post has been powered by avenging fury and a balanced diet.Yeah, I think Nicknacks has this one covered.
When does the new series start?
edited 2nd Jul '11 2:44:54 PM by Howezat
It doesn't matter whether the glass is half empty or half full. I am still going to drink through a silly straw.July 8 in the States.
I guess it is.July 14 in Britain.
Oh, right, some people actually watch shows on TV.
I guess it is.I saw an ad for the new season. It looks like Americans have ruined Doctor Who once again.
More Buscemi at http://forum.reelsociety.com/Half-human bit aside, I didn't see anything awful about the TV movie. Not to say it was GREAT television, mind.
edited 2nd Jul '11 5:17:14 PM by OldManHoOh
Funny story. My local sci fi channel was airing Torchwood, by not the Nu Who, so I had no idea it was a Doctor Who spinoff until after the series was done, (and I mean after Children Of Earth ended) and even more hilariously, I finally learned of the connection on this wiki, and confirmed that connection myself when Jack appeared in The End Of Time.
Go figure.
I'm hoping once miracle day is done, there might still be a chance for Jack to reappear on Doctor Who. He'd be among the small list of companions who've worked with Multiple doctors, and the even smaller list who've done so in Nu-who (as in, the only one actually).
edited 2nd Jul '11 6:46:56 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!He already is. He travelled with the Ninth Doctor between The Doctor Dances and The Parting of the Ways back in 2005. The climax of Parting (while referenced in Utopia) is why he can't die.
Also, Rose Tyler, Sarah Jane Smith and Mickey Smith worked with multiple Nu Who Doctors.
edited 2nd Jul '11 7:26:35 PM by OldManHoOh
To go further into detail, the new American-financed season looks like Prison Break with sci-fi elements. It features a prisoner about to get executed but somehow can't die. Any elements of Doctor Who or Torchwood take a backseat to these elements with a Canon Foreigner.
It's as if Starz thinks that no one will watch it if it doesn't have things that Americans are familiar with (so far, their forte has been violent historical shows).
More Buscemi at http://forum.reelsociety.com/
That's what I meant. He worked with 9 and 10, and I'm hoping he'll get a chance to work with Eleven as well. That's three doctors for the new series, whereas all the others in new who have only worked with 9 and 10.
Sarah Jane is(well was) from what I know one of the only other companions to have worked alongside multiple doctors that appeared in the new series.
edited 2nd Jul '11 9:02:26 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!The way you put it sounded like "he will be the only one to have worked with multiple modern-day-era Doctors if he met Eleven"
Well River Song,Jo Grant and Sarah Jane are the only older companions(pre season 5) to have met Eleven
the concept of Miracle Day sounds intriguing enough, I think the not being able to die will have an odd effect on Jack
edited 2nd Jul '11 9:36:05 PM by faradayangel
Humour, where would we be without it? In Germany, probably
Since the old thread seems to have disappeared, and the new season is starting soon.
I guess it is.