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Common Eye Colors and Technicolor Eyes (New Crowner 11.6): Common Eye Colors get usage counts

 151 Deboss, Sun, 8th Jan '12 7:39:47 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Visually, they're so close the only way I've been able to tell them apart is how shiny and reflective they are. In animation, I assume that they're yellow unless they glow in the dark. We should use Golden over Gold though.
 152 Oreochan, Sun, 8th Jan '12 7:41:28 AM from Pennsylvania
Gonna YKTTW Supernatural Gold Eyes and Feral Golden Eyes after green and grey.

As for Purple Eyes, , Enigmatic Purple Eyes or Mysterious Purple Eyes for the first possible trope?

edited 8th Jan '12 7:48:26 AM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 153 Noir Grimoir, Sun, 8th Jan '12 2:09:45 PM from San Diego, CA
Rabid Fujoshi
Well purple usually denotes 'uniqueness' or 'specialness' so I think the name should say that.
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 154 Oreochan, Sun, 8th Jan '12 2:14:34 PM from Pennsylvania
So, Unique Purple Eyes or Exotic Purple Eyes then? Should there be another trope about having them can signify power or strength?

edited 8th Jan '12 2:15:14 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 155 Noir Grimoir, Thu, 12th Jan '12 10:50:26 PM from San Diego, CA
Rabid Fujoshi
I noticed this trope, Midnight Blue Eyes, the discussion only had eight comments before it was launched and I think it's BS. This is not a trope.
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Batman
Sorry that I'm late to the conversation. About Purple Eyes, "specialness" shouldn't be part of the definition. As it's been argued in the Green-Eyed Redhead TRS "special" is something subjective and everyone and their mother can fit in some way or another. "Special" is something without any standards that define who fits and who doesn't, independently of the looks of a person.

I don't want to have a trope to defend "special" as a quality. Every other trope would find precedent in it to defend its chairness.

Badass Purple Eyes, on the other hand, would be fine to me.
There are no heroes left in Man.
 157 Deboss, Fri, 13th Jan '12 1:41:43 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
How about "the creator wants to draw attention to this character".
Batman
Attention Drawing Purple Eyes would be different than "special", but it would be still a list of "every character with purple eyes ever" unless it only works In-Universe.
There are no heroes left in Man.
 159 Deboss, Fri, 13th Jan '12 1:58:50 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Or if it's written. All written works that invoke a physical appearance have to do so for a reason, since unlike reality, there's no natural state and unlike visual art, you don't have to give them some appearance.
Batman
If it isn't written then we wouldn't know the colour of the eyes and it wouldn't fit anyway, so it would still be "every character with purple eyes ever".

edited 13th Jan '12 2:03:14 AM by DrMcNinja

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 161 Deboss, Fri, 13th Jan '12 2:09:15 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Exactly, if it's written down, when the author could have just left it to our imagination because it's not important, the author must have thought it was important enough to include.
Batman
And what's the difference between knowing it has purple eyes or, let's say, blue eyes? Purple for the sake of purple doesn't make any sense.

edited 13th Jan '12 2:21:41 AM by DrMcNinja

There are no heroes left in Man.
As I posted in the Green-Eyed Redhead thread, that's not really a trope about purple eyes. It's a trope about how prominent characters get prominent characteristics while background characters do not. Ij using this trope, it makes no difference whether an author assigns a character purple eyes, red hair, extraordinary height or scarred skin.

edited 13th Jan '12 9:50:55 AM by Routerie

Huh... I'm used to purple being for psionic.... Does that help?

Edit: nvm this edit.

edited 13th Jan '12 7:57:41 AM by crazysamaritan

Still new. Still learning. Asking questions and making mistakes.
Batman
If there are enough examples, sure, why not.

edited 13th Jan '12 7:55:14 AM by DrMcNinja

There are no heroes left in Man.
Sorry for intruding so late smile I agree with Routerie. Purple Eyes are not the only way a creator can show us that the character is supposed to be important to the plot and not a background NPC. Actually, any distinctive characteristic works for that (Routerie listed some).

Giving important characters prominent appearance traits to hint that they're important, and not giving those to unimportand background characters, is a trope. It's about the difference between main chars' and background chars' appearance, something like Everyone Important Has Distinctive Appearance or Background Characters Never Have Distinctive Appearance — not about one or another specific distinctive appearance trait used for this. It doesn't actually matter, if it's a top hat, a pair of purple eyes, a scar or a fabulous moustache smile

edited 13th Jan '12 9:21:26 AM by Zulfiqar

 
We have the trope Distinctive Appearances.

edited 13th Jan '12 9:44:27 AM by crazysamaritan

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 168 Noir Grimoir, Fri, 13th Jan '12 10:38:36 AM from San Diego, CA
Rabid Fujoshi
Dude, why do you think purple eyes is such a prominent thing for Mary Sues? Because purple eyes = specialness. It's a trope.

edited 13th Jan '12 10:38:48 AM by NoirGrimoir

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Batman
Specialness, a trait with one of the broadest meanings ever. Seriously, what does "specialness" mean, how can we distinguish a special character from a non-special one?
There are no heroes left in Man.
 170 Noir Grimoir, Fri, 13th Jan '12 10:48:35 AM from San Diego, CA
Rabid Fujoshi
How do you measure love? How do you know if it's real? It is real, like specialness. Just stop already.

But if you really want an explanation, it's like Uniqueness Value. Its not just that the purple eyes denote a special character, it's that the eyes themselves make the character "special" in that mary-sueish I'm a beautiful Snowflake, everyone love me kind of way.

edited 13th Jan '12 10:49:38 AM by NoirGrimoir

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Batman
That's vague as hell and you know it. Are you implying that Purple Eyes is the mark of a Mary Sue? Or that just because it's rare it's better in some way? Is it that everyone loves Purple Eyes?

edited 13th Jan '12 11:08:06 AM by DrMcNinja

There are no heroes left in Man.
 172 Noir Grimoir, Fri, 13th Jan '12 1:41:07 PM from San Diego, CA
Rabid Fujoshi
I don't get why this is such a hard concept.

It's a way to make a character look cooler and more unique and stand out because the creator is trying to draw attention to how "special" the character is. Whether or not the character deserves the attention. Its not just for Mary Sues, but the classic Mary Sues are made when the author goes overboard trying to make their character the most awesome, beautiful, cool and unique character of them all so everyone likes them and pays attention to them and thinks they are just so awesome. Purple eyes is a very common way to do that. It's an easy, obvious way to make the character seem different, more special than the other characters with more common eye colors. It's a way to say "Look at me! Don't you just love me? Aren't I cool?" It's usually given to the Author's pet character.

I think this is the same with GERH by the way.

Though I believe purple eyes are also given to characters who are 'magical' in nature as well.
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I think this is the same with GERH by the way.
That's the issue. Unless the characteristic has some other implication (e.g. purple eyes suggest magic} they're the same tropes. The eyes' being purple wouldn't be significant at all - the only significant thing is that the character as some (any!) striking attribute.

edited 14th Jan '12 1:27:14 AM by Routerie

 174 Noir Grimoir, Sat, 14th Jan '12 1:45:06 AM from San Diego, CA
Rabid Fujoshi
GERH can also tap into redhead tropes and green eyes tropes, purple eyes cannot.

But that aside, the reason I posted in the thread earlier is this Midnight Blue Eyes thing popped up, and it's total BS. It was launched with only 8 replies, pretty much every example says something different or doesn't have to do with it at all and the 'qualifications' are all over the place. There isn't a trope here, they're just random examples of characters with dark blue eyes and a description tailored to fit over them. Can we deal with it in here or do you think it needs it's own TRS?

edited 14th Jan '12 2:04:05 AM by NoirGrimoir

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I think the people in this thread who'e looked at eye tropes for weeks would deal with it best. And I think they'd agree to cut it.

Alternative Titles: Eyes Of Gold
10th Nov '12 2:18:40 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
At issue:
Eyes Of Gold was voted to be renamed 12 to 0.
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