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Aiguille Since: Jan, 2001
#351: Oct 28th 2012 at 11:05:08 PM

Lyrical invocaton, conversational troping, good. Got that. Killed some four dozen RL examples, lyricless music examples...the Misha Collins entry stops me short. An actor, but the example (once I cut gush) has a costar Conversational Troping Innocent Blue Eyes and inferentially, the standard association with Heavenly Blue, referencing the actor's role as an angel. Change to subtrope with a conversed note, move to the character page of the series he appears in, or nuke?

Many fictional examples are X Just X by nature. I gather that means mass nuking w/ edit reason, yes? (That faux-redlink pending?)

edited 28th Oct '12 11:06:49 PM by Aiguille

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#352: Oct 28th 2012 at 11:48:14 PM

Just nuke. He's a real person and I don't think his eyes are actually mentioned in the show. It's just a coincidence.

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Aiguille Since: Jan, 2001
#353: Oct 29th 2012 at 5:07:33 PM

Misha Collins example nuked. I think I spotted all the RL ones. Don Bluth has a mention of Blue Eyes in his works that I figure is too sweepingly general to disambiguate, and I'm deleting, but Mary Renault's in-work usage looks like some valid, some not, I'll need to look closer. That leaves 1155 wicks. Is it proper etiquette to leave a note on discussion pages, or is that superfluous with this kind of clean up?

EDIT: The Blue Eyes disambiguation page appears to be playing host to a character sheet for a Darth Wiki work called The Blue Trilogy.

edited 29th Oct '12 6:00:07 PM by Aiguille

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#354: Oct 29th 2012 at 9:12:02 PM

Just leave edit reasons and you're good.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#355: Nov 5th 2012 at 12:31:40 AM

Ugh. I just found Midnight Blue Eyes which is just basically the same thing as the old Blue Eyes page for a slightly different shade. It doesn't seem to have a specific connotation of it's own but instead just duplicates all the Blue Eyes tropes but Innocent Blue Eyes.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#356: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:12:19 AM

Should we Merge-And-then-split it into Blue Eyes?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#357: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:24:32 AM

Mod fiat took care of it. The YKTTW was created explicitly after the author was told to knock it off. Just enforcing what should have been done in the first place.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#358: Nov 5th 2012 at 7:57:01 AM

A question concerning Blue Eyes: Why is Blue Green Eyes being dumped into Blue Eyes in such an awkward way? Is there a specific (or many specific) Adjective Blue Green Eyes trope anywhere?

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#359: Nov 5th 2012 at 8:24:24 AM

1) There isn't a specific blue-green eyes trope, and 2) blue-green eyes tend to be used the same way as blue ones.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#360: Nov 5th 2012 at 8:25:03 AM

[up][up] That's a holdover from when it was used as a trope. As far as I know, there was YKTTW for blue-green eyes called Dreamy Blue-Green Eyes. That didn't go so well and was abandoned because it didn't get any examples in the YKTTW and wasn't symbolic, and thus was thought to not be a trope.

edited 5th Nov '12 8:52:34 AM by Oreochan

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Aiguille Since: Jan, 2001
#361: Nov 5th 2012 at 8:31:00 AM

Hang on a tick, does that mean I should be leaving non-Zero Context Examples of blue-green eyes wicked to the Blue Eyes page? (I don't remember finding any blue-green examples that had any context, as yet)

edited 5th Nov '12 8:31:27 AM by Aiguille

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#362: Nov 5th 2012 at 8:49:54 AM

No, there are no tropes for Blue Green Eyes. We looked. There are none. Sometimes they follow Blue Eyes tropes. Sometimes they follow green eyes tropes. Most often though they aren't tropable. They are most likely to be an actual trope if they fall under Elemental Eye Colours.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#363: Nov 5th 2012 at 11:46:37 AM

Black Eyes:

Going through this "trope" I found not actual black eye tropes. Instead there's a lot of gushing about about how pretty people's eyes are or how so and so's eyes are actually brown. I did however note one trend that doesn't seem confined to black eyes.

Colour Changing Eyes: A character's eyes change colour to indicated a change in the character. This is not limited from changing to one shade or another, but it does seem to be a common happenstance and is the one trend I picked up on in the examples.

The trends mentioned in the description do not appear in the examples. Someone just made them up to sound good.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#364: Nov 5th 2012 at 11:50:08 AM

Black Eyes sounds like something that can be cut, then. That Changing Eye Colours - we don't have such a thing, right?

Concerning Blue Eyes - if blue-green is simply a mixture of Blue Eyes and Green Eyes, can we remove its section from Blue Eyes so that it doesn't create confusion and that ugly empty space at the bottom?

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#365: Nov 5th 2012 at 11:52:32 AM

I think the Colour Changing Eyes needs a trip to Lost And Found—if we already have it, we wouldn't want duplicates.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#366: Nov 5th 2012 at 11:54:16 AM

Dropped a note in Lost And Found.

Offtopic, but how do you watchlist Lost And Found?

edited 5th Nov '12 11:55:53 AM by SeptimusHeap

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#367: Nov 5th 2012 at 11:57:22 AM

Um, isn't Colour Changing Eyes Kaleidoscope Eyes?

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#368: Nov 5th 2012 at 11:59:08 AM

Yup. I was sure we couldn't have missed that.

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edited 5th Nov '12 11:59:20 AM by lu127

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#369: Nov 5th 2012 at 12:03:32 PM

No, it's not actually. Kaleidoscope Eyes are basically eye colour as a mood ring. This would be eye colour changing indicating a dramatic shift in the character like suddenly being demon tainted. Or becoming undead. Not just "my eyes change colour because I'm sad now."

edited 5th Nov '12 12:06:48 PM by shimaspawn

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#370: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:27:14 PM

Another possible trope is nonhumans have impossible colouring but otherwise look like humans. Sort of related to Rubber-Forehead Alien I'm thinking. Only it's not always aliens. It tends to be fantasy races just as often which seems to discourage Rubber-Forehead Alien.

edited 5th Nov '12 1:29:20 PM by shimaspawn

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#371: Nov 5th 2012 at 2:49:54 PM

So Color Changing Eyes would be the supertrope? And why is Kaleidoscope Eyes the main name? Mood Ring Eyes is a lot more obvious.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#372: Nov 5th 2012 at 2:51:08 PM

Because of Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds. It's a reference to something that doesn't even use the trope. Yes, colour changing eyes would be the supertrope.

Honestly, with the amount of random misuse for Kaleidoscope Eyes, I'd change it to Mood Ring Eyes. The definition is far more specific than the use it's getting which seems to be any time eyes have more than one colour for any reason even if they don't actually change.

edited 5th Nov '12 2:54:54 PM by shimaspawn

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Aiguille Since: Jan, 2001
#373: Nov 5th 2012 at 9:44:00 PM

Barring the impending death of the TV Tropes The TV Show links, Blue Eyes is fully disambiguated. I know Oreochan and I were burning the candle at both ends and thanks to anyone else, too. (I often got distracted by just how many character sheets were unindexed)

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#374: Nov 5th 2012 at 9:51:19 PM

Black Eyes is done too. Next up splitting Brown Eyes. Red Eyes, Take Warning and Eyes of Gold are actual tropes but they are going to need some heavy clean up. Red Eyes, Take Warning needs to be red eyes show a character is dangerous and/or evil or thought to be at the very least because of the eyes. Eyes of Gold needs to be gold eyes show a character is supernatural of some sort.

Eyes of Gold may need a rename since people seem to use if for Gold Eyes.

edited 5th Nov '12 9:56:22 PM by shimaspawn

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#375: Nov 5th 2012 at 10:17:03 PM

Rename crowner up for Eyes of Gold.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

AlternativeTitles: EyesOfGold
10th Nov '12 2:18:40 AM

Crown Description:

Eyes Of Gold was voted to be renamed 12 to 0.

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