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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#301: Aug 15th 2012 at 7:36:24 PM

Initial thoughts. All names tentative.

Do we need to split up Red Eyes, Take Warning? Seems descriptive and relatively narrow already.

EDIT: Ninja'd while I typed, and looks like this has been done before with fewer variants.

edited 15th Aug '12 7:42:29 PM by ccoa

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#302: Aug 15th 2012 at 7:47:34 PM

[up] The elemental associations are already covered by Elemental Eye Colors.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#303: Aug 15th 2012 at 8:04:10 PM

Seems to be missing some. I'll have to update it.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#304: Aug 16th 2012 at 1:18:28 AM

Do we have a split plan for Blue Eyes and Brown Eyes? These colours are most likely misused and in need of a split, given that they are normal eye colours. (as opposed to Green Eyes)

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#305: Aug 16th 2012 at 1:58:55 AM

[up] Blue Eyes has already been split into Innocent Blue Eyes, Creepy Blue Eyes, Occult Blue Eyes and Icy Blue Eyes. The wicks for Blue Eyes need to be deleted if they are Zero Conext Examples or moved to any of the split off tropes if they fit. As for Brown Eyes, it's probably going to be split into three tropes for normal, down to earth/trustworthy and sensual.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#306: Aug 16th 2012 at 5:36:35 AM

[up][up]Green eyes aren't normal? Does that make me abnormal?

Brown Eyes is as good a place to start as any. I'll take Trustworthy/Dependable Brown Eyes.

edited 16th Aug '12 5:37:24 AM by ccoa

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#307: Aug 16th 2012 at 5:39:12 AM

AFAIK, true green eyes are uncommon enough that I wouldn't expect them to show up just because they can.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#308: Aug 16th 2012 at 5:43:00 AM

It looks like the split of Blue Eyes wasn't completed, either - It's still described as a trope and I still see examples on the page.

Were we waiting on the blue-green eyed tropes for that, or can it be done now?

EDIT: Dependable Brown Eyes draft. Went with dependable over trustworthy because dependable seems to encompass more of the traits associated with them, but feel free to weigh in on the name.

edited 16th Aug '12 6:00:15 AM by ccoa

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#309: Aug 16th 2012 at 6:57:23 AM

I could have sworn we at least got rid of the examples on Blue Eyes.

Well, anyway, we should do that. And did we ever vote on the faux-redlinking?

edited 16th Aug '12 6:58:06 AM by Discar

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#310: Aug 16th 2012 at 7:48:15 AM

We can pull them to a sandbox so we have them for the blue-green eye tropes. EDIT: Done, and put the examples and blue-green description on Sandbox.Blue Eyes for safekeeping.

One of the winning crowner options says to faux redlink the disambig pages, but Eddie hasn't been honoring requests to faux redlink things lately. So we may not be able to do that.

edited 16th Aug '12 7:53:15 AM by ccoa

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#311: Aug 16th 2012 at 8:37:44 AM

I think I can get Feline Green Eyes and Animalistic Golden Eyes.

I'm having concerns Airy Green Eyes will end up redundant to Wind Is Green.

edited 16th Aug '12 8:40:47 AM by lu127

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#312: Aug 16th 2012 at 9:36:48 AM

As Oreochan said, the elemental eye colors are lumped in Elemental Eye Colors, so we don't need them anyway.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#313: Aug 16th 2012 at 10:47:49 AM

Actually, Shimaspawn did try to make a YKTTW for blue-green eyes called Dreamy Blue-Green Eyes. That didn't go so well and was abandoned because it didn't get any examples in the YKTTW and wasn't symbolic, and thus was thought to not be trope.

Anyway, I can take Supernatural Gold Eyes, Ordinary Brown Eyes and Magical Green Eyes to the YKTTW whenever the chance arises.

edited 16th Aug '12 11:36:38 AM by Oreochan

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#314: Aug 16th 2012 at 3:37:10 PM

I've got the cat eyes up.

edited 16th Aug '12 3:52:10 PM by lu127

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#315: Aug 17th 2012 at 12:30:55 PM

Just pointing out that crowner consensus is not to split based on specific colors.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#316: Aug 17th 2012 at 12:36:38 PM

It says to split them on how the colors can be used. Are we not doing so?

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#317: Aug 20th 2012 at 11:52:18 AM

Okaaaay, I do not have the extensive knowledge of eye colors in fiction apparently necessary to do this, since I've been told I need to do a survey of all characters who are dependable, and check their eye color - something I have no idea how to even start doing, assuming I had the time and inclination to do so. Apparently, eye color cannot be symbolic. Or something.

So I have no idea what to do now.

edited 20th Aug '12 11:54:24 AM by ccoa

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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#318: Aug 20th 2012 at 12:46:16 PM

"Apparently, eye color cannot be symbolic."

Calling bullshit on that claim, with Red Eyes, Take Warning as my counter-example.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#319: Aug 20th 2012 at 12:48:33 PM

Keyword is "apparently".

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#320: Aug 20th 2012 at 12:55:26 PM

I believe that eye color can be symbolic, but have no real way to prove that to troactid and Dragon Quest Z's satisfaction.

edited 20th Aug '12 12:55:42 PM by ccoa

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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#321: Aug 21st 2012 at 6:03:05 PM

[up]I kinda figured that was the case. My dissatisfaction is with them.

EdnaWalker Sophia Gata Hernandez Lopez Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Sophia Gata Hernandez Lopez
#322: Sep 6th 2012 at 1:53:37 PM

How are the green, yellow, and brown eye tropes going?

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#323: Sep 6th 2012 at 3:14:03 PM

They're not, since we don't know how to proceed.

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#324: Sep 6th 2012 at 6:14:18 PM

Can't we just cut them, and if anyone wants to YKTTW relevant tropes, let them?

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#325: Sep 7th 2012 at 7:28:55 AM

Given the number of inbounds, cutting them is going to take some strong arguments.

It would be nice if troactid would come by and explain what it is he thinks we should do, since he's the reason this is being held up.

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AlternativeTitles: EyesOfGold
10th Nov '12 2:18:40 AM

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