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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#276: May 15th 2012 at 9:28:54 PM

Danny has green eyes, they aren't really part of a larger trope and doesn't have anything to do with occult symbolism. He just has green eyes. His eyes could be any other colour and it wouldn't matter. They're just supposed to match his powers, and that's closer to Elemental Eye Colours than anything. You're just pointing out works where there are occult creatures, and they have an eye colour.

I did a separate YKTTW for Green Eyes. We couldn't find any where the green was actually symbolic and not just there.

edited 15th May '12 9:34:58 PM by shimaspawn

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#277: May 16th 2012 at 12:21:28 AM

[up] His eyes are blue normally. They change color to spooky-glowy-green when he transforms. Cuz ghosts are glowy green. Definitely meaningful. And IIRC all of the other ghosts that don't have red eyes have green eyes.

But the false positive issue is more important than the false negatives anyway.

edited 16th May '12 12:31:01 AM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#278: May 16th 2012 at 5:04:27 AM

Occult yellow eyes? That's not a thing.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#279: May 16th 2012 at 5:07:08 AM

The only thing I can think of here would be <Trait> Eye Colour. But I have no idea how to convey these tropes without making them prone to get "Trait + Colour" stuff into them.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#280: May 16th 2012 at 5:55:41 AM

[up][up][up] They're meaningful because that's the colour that ghosts are in that world. Not because green is a larger trope. If ghosts were red in that world, they'd be red. The colour change is significant, but Colour Changing Eyes is a completely separate trope as are Glowing Eyes.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#281: May 16th 2012 at 7:36:49 PM

[up] I think we already that covered by Kaleidoscope Eyes. Anyway, should we just redirect Midnight Blue Eyes to Common Eye Colours and move the wicks to the Blue Eyes tropes, since what it has seems to be already covered by the other Blue Eyes tropes? Also, can I go ahead and redirect Blue Eyes since we're already done with splitting that?

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#283: May 16th 2012 at 7:55:07 PM

I was under the impression that we were going to cut it if we can't find a redirect. It has 604 inbounds and that's usually rejected because anything with more than 10 inbounds won't get cut most of time. But since we can redirect somewhere and maybe faux-redlink we don't have to cutlist it. I wouldn't be adverse to to it being cut though.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#284: May 19th 2012 at 9:28:16 PM

Since there is disagreement about we are going to split this do we have to redo the crowner or something so we can finally move forward on this?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#285: May 21st 2012 at 9:14:18 PM

We're not going to cutlist Blue Eyes, but we're going to fake redlink it and redirect it.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#286: May 23rd 2012 at 11:56:49 AM

So, are we going to split these tropes by specific eye colour or what? I think doing that makes more sense than [Adjective] eyes. This thread keeps stalling so I hope we can move on from here.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#287: May 23rd 2012 at 11:58:50 AM

It really does seem to be the combination of eye colour and adjective that's actually tropable. Not generally just one or the other.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#288: May 23rd 2012 at 4:03:41 PM

But that combination also seems to attract misuse. So it's an uncomfortable place to be. I don't think we can have a trope that's Adjective Color Eyes and have it be healthy.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#289: May 23rd 2012 at 4:12:03 PM

But it doesn't attract anywhere near the degree of misuse of either of the others, and the 'misuse' still ends up being examples that fit the pattern even if it's not explained in media.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#290: Jun 14th 2012 at 3:24:09 AM

Okay, so I'm going to go redirect Blue Eyes to Common Eye Colours since we're already done splitting it. Should we redirect Midnight Blue Eyes as well? It doesn't seem all that distinct from the other blue eyes tropes.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#291: Jul 3rd 2012 at 10:49:24 AM

Bump. I redirected Blue Eyes to Common Eye Colors, so I guess we can focus on splitting tropes out of the others now?

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#292: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:29:50 AM

Wait, don't redirect Blue Eyes. We have to redlink it.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#293: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:44:39 AM

1263 wicks? You have to clean them up first.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#294: Jul 3rd 2012 at 12:20:25 PM

Looks like I redirected it too early. I'll restore it and fix the wicks.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#295: Aug 15th 2012 at 5:51:32 AM

Looks like we stalled out here. What's left to do other than the above cleaning?

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#296: Aug 15th 2012 at 12:18:08 PM

[up] Well, the Common Eye Colours tropes (except Blue Eyes which is already split) need to be split and the tropes sent through YKTTW.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#297: Aug 15th 2012 at 1:40:07 PM

I'd be happy to take some YKTT Ws. Have we worked out how we're splitting them, or is that still under discussion?

Sorry, 12 page topic here. :(

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#298: Aug 15th 2012 at 1:41:28 PM

I wanted to make some YKTTWs too, but I held off as we didn't seem to agree whether we should split or not.

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EdnaWalker Sophia Gata Hernandez Lopez Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#300: Aug 15th 2012 at 7:29:23 PM

[up][up][up]As for how we are going to split them.. I'm not sure. There were lists such as the ones on post 20 and 46. It was also said that we should look at the tropes and split by how the description and the examples use them instead of following lists.

[up] I don't think Red Eyes, Take Warning needs to be split since it already has a specific meaning

Anyways, since Gold Eyes are associated with the supernatural and animals, maybe we can make for those?

edited 15th Aug '12 7:30:10 PM by Oreochan

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AlternativeTitles: EyesOfGold
10th Nov '12 2:18:40 AM

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Eyes Of Gold was voted to be renamed 12 to 0.

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