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Common Eye Colors and Technicolor Eyes (New Crowner 11.6): Common Eye Colors get usage counts

All the eye color tropes that are named "X Eyes" are being misused as "this character has X color eyes." However, the tropes are about the implications of the eye colors, not merely having them. Renaming the tropes to be more like Black Eyes of Evil and Red Eyes, Take Warning would go a long way towards fixing misuse. Of course, cleanup would still be necessary, but that will require people familiar with the works in question, since like a lot of personal appearance tropes most of the examples are X Just X.

Here are the ones that need renaming:

edited 29th Jun '11 12:57:13 PM by Discar

 2 Madrugada, Wed, 29th Jun '11 12:56:19 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Eyes of Gold/Amber Eyes would be straightforward: Golden Eyes Are Supernatural. Amber Eyes is simply a redirect to Eyes of Gold.
'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
Fixed that. The redirect and main name were on two separate indices.
 4 Deboss, Wed, 29th Jun '11 12:57:56 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Agreement.

I think Eyes of Gold might work on it's own.
 5 peccantis, Wed, 29th Jun '11 1:04:33 PM Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
the flies will find you
Serious Grey Eyes? The trope page lists a bunch of tropes so this could be tricky to name. Eyes Of Silver would be splittable as a trope about what was "the height of beauty" some centuries ago.

Brown Eyes is again two things, Humanity Is Brown Eyed and Down To Earth Brown Eyes.

Mysterious Purple Eyes? Exotic Green Eyes or Magical Green Eyes?

edited 29th Jun '11 1:09:36 PM by peccantis

before the darkness arrives
Cure Candy
I thought the connected personality traits to the eyes were more of guidelines or just side things in an "are often" type manner. (just the impossible eye colors though or works where it is for sure a choice to give them that color.)We were discussing something similar this in the shy blue haired girl thread going the entirely other direction.

edited 29th Jun '11 2:17:15 PM by Raso

 7 Deboss, Wed, 29th Jun '11 2:11:23 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I'd suggest Plain Brown Eyes for one of those. Or Earthly Brown Eyes for the second.

 8 Madrugada, Wed, 29th Jun '11 2:11:38 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
"People who have blue eyes" isn't a trope. Neither is "People have blue eyes".

"pale watery blue eyes usually indicate a villain or a bad guy" is a trope.

edited 29th Jun '11 2:12:20 PM by Madrugada

'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 9 peccantis, Wed, 29th Jun '11 5:04:06 PM Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
the flies will find you
Villainous Pale Blue Eyes? Or Icy Blue?
before the darkness arrives
 10 shimaspawn, Wed, 29th Jun '11 5:09:54 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
I like Icy Blue Eyes. I also don't think we should be afraid to split these tropes into different tropes. The current lumping of tropes that only have colour in common is contributing to their decay. There's a different between blue eyes being cold and blue eyes representing water after all.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 11 Deboss, Wed, 29th Jun '11 7:21:31 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I like Icy Blue Eyes as well.
and Blue Eyes Of Innocence or Blue Eyes Of Purity for the "innocent" or "pure" version of blue eyes.

 13 shimaspawn, Thu, 30th Jun '11 6:42:42 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Or Innocent Blue Eyes. The Of phrasing is awkward and archaic.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
Splitting them seems the best idea. Icy Blue Eyes has very little crossover with Creepy Blue Eyes (the watery, "you should blink more than you do" kind of eyes). Obviously I suck at naming, but that's why we have this thread.

And Eyes of Gold isn't working on its own. I looked over the wicks, and most of them were X Just X.
 15 Ironeye, Thu, 30th Jun '11 10:39:34 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
It would be good to go through each of those pages and identify how they should be split, then come up with names for each.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 16 shimaspawn, Thu, 30th Jun '11 10:52:47 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
I'm with Iron Eye. Let's go page by page and identify the tropes listed and then split them into those tropes. I do think some of the tropes can be merged back into conglomerate tropes though. For example, brown eyes for earth powers and blue eyes for water powers could probably stand to be one large trope called Elemental Eye Colours.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 17 Ironeye, Thu, 30th Jun '11 11:01:02 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
I'm making a list right now, to be posted in maybe 15 mins.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 18 Deboss, Thu, 30th Jun '11 11:10:03 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I think Elemental Physical Theme or something would be better. So we could lump in stuff like hair color too and other stuff.
Isn't there a page for physical traits that relate to superpowers? Like a redhead having fire powers, or someone of stocky build having rock powers?

 20 Ironeye, Thu, 30th Jun '11 11:28:18 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
List!

  • Black: Two variants (#3 seems to be a random observation by the page author and isn't supported in the examples, while #4 is noted a few times as a general trend but gets few concrete examples)
    • Sinister, gritty, or mysterious
    • Sorrowful
  • Brown: Four variants
    • Trustworthy and stable—"down to earth"
    • Mysterious and sensual (Dark Brown)
    • Earth Powers
    • Normal (a mix of "the one guy with brown eyes doesn't have any powers" and "non-Caucausians with other eye colors are special")
  • Gold: One variant
    • Supernatural, often animalisitic
  • Gray: Five, though one is more of a general appearance trope that happens to include gray eyes
    • Prophetic (often blind)
    • Cold, unapproachable, and valuing ideas over people
    • Innocence (Forgotten Trope)
    • Beauty (when linked with rosy cheeks and golden hair; Forgotten Trope)
    • Dangerously competent and cold
  • Green: Four variants, though they don't all get much support in the examples
    • Nature, particularly possessing of innate magic
    • Spitfire and untrustworthy
    • Striking and sexy (often overlapping with Fiery Redhead to get Green-Eyed Redhead)
    • Cat-like
  • Purple: one variant
    • Special, mysterious, and badass
  • Hazel: Three variants, two of which are tropable
    • Mundanes with the potential to be something more (linking to the "normal" part of Brown Eyes)
    • Mercurial but reliable
    • Counting as Eyes of Gold
  • Blue: Seven variants
    • Innocence (The replacement for Innocent Gray Eyes)
    • Piercing and icy
    • Unsettling
    • Demonic / Evil Eye
    • Water Powers
    • Eerie/sophisticated (but not mysterious) wizard
    • Witch (though this is apparently too rare to trope)
  • Blue-green (from Blue Eyes): Two variants
    • Dreamy
    • Heroic and independent (the former from Blue and the latter from Green)

edited 30th Jun '11 11:29:14 AM by Ironeye

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 21 Deboss, Thu, 30th Jun '11 11:53:08 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I think there is. Check on Personality Powers to see if it's got a related trope.
Fallen Paladin
[up][up]Excellent and clear summary.
You always take us with you when you go
The first variant of gray seems to be either Prophet Eyes or a variant thereof.

 24 shimaspawn, Thu, 30th Jun '11 12:51:06 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
[up][up][up] I can't find it anywhere. I don't think we have it. Or rather, we have it but it's fragmented over all the hair and eyecolour tropes.

edited 30th Jun '11 12:51:38 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
Cure Candy
Red Eyes, Take Warning, as well as Kind Red Eyes too. ([1] this would be both...)

EDIT: where did Kind Red Eyes go?

This would go where?

edited 30th Jun '11 1:36:30 PM by Raso

Alternative Titles: Eyes Of Gold
10th Nov '12 2:18:40 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
At issue:
Eyes Of Gold was voted to be renamed 12 to 0.
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