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MilosStefanovic Decemberist from White City, Ruritania Since: Oct, 2010
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#1: Jun 27th 2011 at 4:47:05 AM

Everybody knows about the Order Versus Chaos dilemma. Where do your beliefs stand? Why?

Personally, I prefer order, simply because I enjoy more organization in my life, distrust humanity too much to let chaos and anarchy happen, and highly value the concepts of justice and duty. On the other hand, I have a high respect for balance and status quo, and a lot of chaotic traits (am a fierce individualist, highly value freedom of thought and expression, and go by the consequentalist (with a lot of personal modifications) ethical system, but would still consider myself orderly, or at least neutral. An unconventional Lawful Neutral would probably be the best fit.

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#2: Jun 27th 2011 at 5:17:08 AM

I stand for neutrality.

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#3: Jun 27th 2011 at 5:18:43 AM

Both. Neither cannot exist without the other - Opposition is true friendship.

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#4: Jun 27th 2011 at 5:22:07 AM

Neither. Everything can be annihilated.

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#5: Jun 27th 2011 at 5:33:01 AM

An excess of either leads to Bad Things. Balance is key.

That said, I naturally lean more towards Order.

edited 27th Jun '11 5:33:15 AM by Anura

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#6: Jun 27th 2011 at 7:29:45 AM

Either or depending on my mood and the situation, but I mostly seem to lean towards chaos. What sort of Trickster would I be if I didn't?

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#7: Jun 27th 2011 at 10:03:00 AM

Order and chaos are emergent phenomena. Neither is philosophically significant to me. That said, as a purely subjective preference, I prefer a mix of order and chaos in my life, probably tending a little toward order.

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#8: Jun 27th 2011 at 12:29:53 PM

Order!

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#11: Jun 27th 2011 at 12:44:52 PM

Eh, a little of both. Without order, things are a complete clusterfuck of a mess. Too much order, things become boring and oppressive.

As with anything, extremes are both bad. A happy medium is best.

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#12: Jun 27th 2011 at 4:56:11 PM

Balance .

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#13: Jun 27th 2011 at 5:48:25 PM

Neither.

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#14: Jun 27th 2011 at 7:29:21 PM

Chaotic Good order.

Basically, order is necessary only as much as it is needed to protect freedom. For one to be free to live, another has to be forbidden from murder.

But life f nothing but order is not worth living. And pure chaos does not exist.

If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#15: Jun 28th 2011 at 12:58:57 AM

I don't get chaos. I do tend to sympathize with non-lawful characters more than lawful ones, though (and I often sympathize with characters who stick to a few important laws over characters who let themselves get hog-tied by dozens of laws.)

edited 28th Jun '11 1:04:37 AM by feotakahari

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#16: Jun 28th 2011 at 1:01:47 AM

I'll take one order of chaos, please!

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#17: Jun 28th 2011 at 1:17:00 AM

Though a little bit of Order is good once in a while, I much prefer Chaos. I hate having my freedom restrained.

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#18: Jun 28th 2011 at 1:25:44 AM

Are we talking real world chaos, as in shit is breaking down and things are a mess or D&D chaos, which is basically I'll do what I want?

MilosStefanovic Decemberist from White City, Ruritania Since: Oct, 2010
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#19: Jun 28th 2011 at 1:44:50 AM

Well, you can say that it's D&D chaos.

Anyway, to be honest, I agree with Feo. I often find myself symapthizing with Type I Lawful Evil villains over Chaotic Good heroes, which I consider nothing but a nuisance. A ridiculously idealistic, idiotic, foolish nuisance with no possible knowledge of the consequences of their actions, which would probably be better off executed and left on a square to show people an example of how not to behave.

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#20: Jun 28th 2011 at 1:48:32 AM

I have a soft spot for Magnificent Bastards over totally dumb heroes.

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#21: Mar 17th 2012 at 2:13:55 PM

It doesn't matter. They're all just definitions or even illusions that aren't objectively true. They're not even opposites, they're part of the same thing. Human things like law and freedom aren't even a part of it, unlike what D&D seems to imply.

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#23: Mar 17th 2012 at 2:24:04 PM

Chaotic Order.

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#24: Mar 17th 2012 at 6:15:24 PM

Order and chaos are merely two sides of the same coin, really.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that the total entropy, a sort of measure of chaos, is continually increasing. And yet the end result of it would be a uniform distribution of subatomic particles; perfect order.

Then there's something called Chaos Theory which goes into the nature of this stuff, and is something I'm not even going to pretend to understand.

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