Click on the link at the top of the page and tell me what you see.
I really don't think this thread has any purpose.
EDIT: Well, that makes more sense.
edited 26th Jun '11 8:25:00 PM by Discar
Hollered for title change.
Fight smart, not fair.Bump
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."I'd like to hear some alternatives before we seriously consider renaming. Here's one: Failed Cool Down Hug. Its a Cooldown Hug that didn't work.
This trope isn't the Cooldown Hug failing to work, it's some idiot coming in and pissing off the recipient of the hug, thereby rendering it moot.
I'm not seeing a real issue with the name, though it'd be nice to be rid of the ptitle.
I wouldn't be posting at this forum if I didn't think it a necessary step.Nope. As a SPOON member, I'd be all about clear names being the first priority, but this is kind of an exceptional case given the name has basically become synonymous with its own concept by now, among the site's userbase at least.
There are no good alternatives for this, I'm afraid. The last time a trope (Nakama) has been renamed, the substitute (True Companions) barely keeps the same meaning, but even then that would be kind of a stretch.
In the end, I say no.
I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!This title has brought 89 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.
I don't see how this page is "basically become synonymous with" anything, really. It has a serious lack of wicks and inbounds (as MM shows), as well as google hits (less than 3000); so it seems to me that pretty much nobody uses the term, for anything.
So +1 for rename, from me.
edited 3rd Aug '11 2:20:23 PM by Spark9
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!Another reason why it needs to be renamed is that it's a character named title. How are we supposed to know which hulk the title is referring to?
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."You don't need to know who the Hulk is to get the "Cooldown Hug Corollary" bit. I think it's indicative enough as-is.
Rhymes with "Protracted."That's true. Also, ehcoing the above, we don't have anything better.
That only says it has something to do with Cooldown Hug, though.
If a rename is out of the question,could we at least add a few redirects like Cool Down Hug Inference?
edited 21st Sep '11 10:01:47 PM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Yes, Redirects Are Free.
Rhymes with "Protracted."Interrupted Cooldown Hug? Cooldown Interception? Otherwise, it looks like just removing Hulk's name from the title could help (even though, really, the Hulk's kind of unmistakable).
[The rest was unintelligible.]True, but not everybody's familiar with this plot pattern of his. Keeping him in the name does seem like a good idea, though, as a way of sounding specific.
Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - CamacanJust piping in to say this topic is linked to the unpunctuated title and won't show up on the trope's page. As such the usage statistics are for the unpunctuated title alone.
The unpunctuated title and the ptitle have (32 + 48) 80 wicks and 90 inbounds.
edited 22nd Sep '11 8:43:31 AM by Earnest
I switched the unpunctuated title for the ptitle. Should we make a crowner for this?
edited 22nd Sep '11 2:15:41 PM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Bump
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."It looks to me like opinion on renaming this trope is kind of mixed. I made a single proposition crowner here in order to clarify some things though since I do not think there is clear consensus support either way just judging by the posts in this thread.
"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 dIt's been almost over 6 months since this thread has been created in late June, and during that time the trope has been moved off its ptitle. The inbounds for the ptitle and the trope combined are 101,the wicks for Hulk's Cooldown Hug Corollary alone are 49(as most of the wicks have been moved from its ptitle). 100 inbounds have been attracted by the old ptitle and only 1 has been for Hulk's Cooldown Hug Corollary. It is absolutely pitiful that a trope gets beaten by it's own ptitle (in terms of inbounds) like that.
Also, the trope is still severely anemic with its wicks as in, only 5 wicks has been added during this time. For a trope that's over two or three years old now, I think a rename has to be done in order for this to ever have a chance to flourish on this wiki.
Edit: I made a mistake, it's 49 wicks not 45. Also,I looked at it's YKTTW draft here, it's actually over three or two years old since it's been launched either November 2008 or early 2009.
edited 1st Dec '11 6:01:55 AM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."I loathe double posting, but this thread keeps dying every time I pick it up...
Anyway, bumping for more votes so this can finally be resolved.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."I don't really see a reason why this would have to be renamed. Going for clarity or conciseness, the way to go would be something like Monster Cooldown Hug Corolary, but that could just as well be a redirect and nothing is lost. I wish someone could come up with an excellent Adverbially Adjectivy Noun Trope Name for this...
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?I don't really have any problems with the name,just that it's performing so poorly for a trope that's over a few years old. If we won't rename it, we can at least try to give this trope some justice by redirect farming. You're right though, it's going to be tough to find some good alternate titles for this...
edited 1st Dec '11 1:43:12 PM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Should we rename this one? It seems like it can only be found in Hug Tropes or by clicking the random tropes button.
It's a pretty good trope but it's title sounds kind of awkward.
Edit: I got the link wrong, it's Hulk's Cooldown Hug Corollary
edited 26th Jun '11 7:56:53 PM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."