Line of dialog title [What year is it?]: Ptitle2f4agitl

Perfectly good trope buried under a bad title.

"This title has brought 6,219 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09."

You have an odd definition of "buried."

It's a bit underachieving if you look at the link count though.

We get duplicates in YKTTW on a routine basis. We need at least some redirects so people can find it.

^ Examples?

The trope is about asking that very question, I don't see how the title being a question is a bad thing. If that's a problem for this, you need to fix the entire Stock Phrase index.

edited 25th Jun '11 11:18:24 AM by deuxhero

It is about getting a time fix, not a specific line of dialog.

Time Fix could work.

Underachieving? It has more wicks than two out of three trope pages on the wiki, it's an extremely specific phrase so you'd expect it to be linked less, and it's a ptitle which means the "related to" button doesn't even count all the wicks.

Yeah, look at this part of what you said again: an extremely specific phrase so you'd expect it to be linked less.

Being linked more is more better.

edited 25th Jun '11 11:25:44 AM by FastEddie

I stand corrected.

I don't think Time Fix is much of an improvement, but possibly.

^^No it wouldn't.

What Year Is It? makes it clear it is a trope about asking what year it is.

Time Fix at best implies Set Right What Once Went Wrong.

Agreed, but things that happen less will be linked less than things that happen more. That has nothing to do with titling, it's as close to an immutable law of nature as anything on the wiki.

And, as I said, it's still doing better than a good-sized majority of tropes.

edited 25th Jun '11 11:33:49 AM by Micah

How about Finding Out When You Are

By the way, here is what good inbounds look like.

Finding Out When You Are sounds like a supertrope; it would cover Newspaper Dating as well as this.

If absolutely nothing else, What Year Is It? should probably be added as a redirect. People are trying to use that for this very thread.

I can't imagine how the current title could possibly be confusing. What would we change it to? Asking Someone What Year It Is? That's longer and clunkier to get across the exact same information.

edited 25th Jun '11 12:16:27 PM by troacctid

Eddie, are you sure you've understood what the trope is about? You described it as "getting a time fix", but it's much more specific than that - it's specifically about a time traveller asking a random passerby what year it is (and the person answering as if it was a perfectly normal question) as a way of finding out when they've arrived. It's not quite a Stock Phrase since it can be asked in a couple of slightly different ways, but I think it's close enough to a Stock Phrase that it fits perfectly as the title of this trope.

"Getting a time fix" would be the supertrope of both this and Newspaper Dating.

If we don't have the trope, rather than the stock dialog, we should make it.

The trope is about not knowing what year it is and asking someone to find out. It always involves asking what year it is, and whenever someone asks what year it is, this trope is occurring 99% of the time. (I guess the other 1% would be like, sarcastically asking what year it is because your outfit is so 2004, or something.)

Yes, what we really need is to make a supertrope for time traveler and/or Rip Van Winkle trying to figure out when they are.

I would suggest When Are We, but that sounds like a line of dialogue and someone is trying ykttw that as an article about the stock phrase right now.

When Are We sounds like a good redirect for this trope.

Eddie, could you please clarify something for me?

The page Everything You Wanted To Know About Changing Names says not to rename pages if they have "good inbounds", without giving an estimate of what that means.

Said page is frequently interpreted, on this forum, as a moratorium on renaming any page with a thousand or so inbounds, even if the name is confusing, fan myopic, or factually wrong. On the other hand, I get the impression that you, as the site owner, are generally in favor of renaming confusing/myopic/counterfactual tropes, e.g. in this thread, or the recent Xanatos Planned This Index.

...so what's the deal? Perhaps it is more acceptable these days to rename certain things than when Everything You Wanted To Know About Changing Names was first written? Maybe it should be changed to reflect this? Or maybe I'm missing the point here?

I made a single proposition rename crowner here.

As for the inbounds issue, I think that the disparity between the number of inbounds and the actual use of the trope is worth noting and may be an issue to which Fast Eddie is alluding. I am not sure about that though.

Hell no. It's a Stock Phrase. And the page (and trope) is about -using- said Stock Phrase. Keep title.

edited 27th Jun '11 10:54:49 AM by savage

IMHO, either keep the title, or use another title that emphasizes that this is a question (as for all the other parts of the trope there are titles already). Ask When You Are?

edited 27th Jun '11 4:46:34 PM by SilentReverence

There's no reason to do that. Anyways, Fast Eddie's only gripe with the title is that it sounds like a line of dialogue... something which I gather is a pet peeve of his. So your suggestion wouldn't 'fix' that either.

I am pretty strongly against renaming for the reasons I stated (rather briefly) above. It's a trope -about- a Stock Phrase, naming it anything else will just make it -more- obtuse, not less.

Either way, it seems like there's hardly any support for renaming so far, personally I think that is for the best.

edited 28th Jun '11 1:33:14 AM by savage