Croatia greenlighted to join EU:

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1 Kinkajou25th Jun 2011 03:37:56 AM from you're not your
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2 GameChainsaw25th Jun 2011 03:42:54 AM from sunshine and rainbows!
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I don't know enough to know whether I should be cheering or worried. Gonna go wiki Croatia.
3 Kinkajou25th Jun 2011 03:53:21 AM from you're not your
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It's one of the former Yugoslav republics. Notably not much of a flashpoint.
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4 Gault25th Jun 2011 03:59:35 AM from near a disputed border
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Woo! Good to see a sign of progress.
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In retrospect, allowing Greece in was probably a mistake. It's to be seen whether the same will prove true of Croatia.
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Romania and Bulgaria were mistakes, too. And so will Croatia. They just aren't on the same economical level, and that creates problems.

Besides, I thought negotiations were still ongoing about what reforms Croatia has to perform? This seems like rushing the process to get ideologically desirable results. Shouldn't Coratia first have to enact all those reforms before being allowed to join?
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7 Kinkajou25th Jun 2011 04:47:17 AM from you're not your
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Croatia apparently is devoting is all of its resources to just getting into the EU.

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9 GameChainsaw25th Jun 2011 05:55:06 AM from sunshine and rainbows!
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Its certainly bold of them to expand the EU at a time of financial instability. I hope this isn't short-termist thinking.
I visited Croatia last year and I was impressed of how much progress they made in the last years. A chance of joining the EU can apparantly support positive development.

edited 25th Jun '11 6:08:39 AM by Zarastro

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12 Kinkajou25th Jun 2011 06:14:32 AM from you're not your
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[up][up] A lot of that development was for the sake of joining the EU, ironically...
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13 GameChainsaw25th Jun 2011 06:30:43 AM from sunshine and rainbows!
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[up][up] The Euro might collapse, but the EU is unlikely to. Even in the worst case of the Euro becoming waste paper, won't Croatia still retain its own currency? Joining the EU is not the same as adopting the Euro.
14 Kinkajou25th Jun 2011 06:39:57 AM from you're not your
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Yeah, many of the peripheral EU states have yet to join the Eurozone.

Greece and Ireland did, however.
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[up][up]EU is not in a good condition either. It's really an administration eating itself right now - itself and money of course.
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16 GameChainsaw25th Jun 2011 06:44:43 AM from sunshine and rainbows!
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This is true.sad

Well, not entirely. It still has stuff like the regional development fund. But I think it needs a total overhaul. I think some nations may have to leave it, if only to persuade the idiots in charge to completely reform it along democratic, streamlined lines that lead us to be better integrated.

edited 25th Jun '11 6:44:58 AM by GameChainsaw

Eh, I'd say that we just need Schoengen and not much more. Creating a big, centralized superstate is not a good idea
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18 BestOf25th Jun 2011 07:25:32 AM from Finland , Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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I welcome Croatia with open arms. I hope the EU will come to include all of the former members of Yugoslavia when they're ready. Co-operation in the EU would bring them together and improve their relations.

I hope that every European country will eventually be able to join, though I do believe it's important to maintain a set of standards that guarantees prosperity while making sure that reaching those standards is as easy as it can be for countries that are thinking about joining us.
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Like, someonelese said, Croatia like the Baltic countrie shas made enourmous progress in the lttile time since the wars. They have a history of sucesss as well, and one we get one FYR country in the others will integrate easier.
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Prince of Dorne
Croatia is on a whole different level that countries like the baltic countries. Those, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia and even Croatia's direct neighbour Slovenia and Hungary all have made great progress since 1990. But countries like Croatia, Romania and Bulgaria? Not so much.
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The EU can absorb small countries without much of a hassle. Romania was an utter mess, but it was a small mess, and all the immigrants were in the EU already. Romanian migrants were a permanent underclass of a known size. Making their situation legal would reduce crime. And Romania has improved quite a bit with the EU development fund money... To the point that lots of Romanians go back 'cause there's good work in Romania.

Croatia is messy, but it's a small country too. It's poor countries with big populations that cause a mess for the EU.
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Would you folks say that enlarging the EU with these small countries will make taking in something really big like Turkey easier or harder?

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23 GameChainsaw25th Jun 2011 09:27:43 AM from sunshine and rainbows!
24 Inhopelessguy25th Jun 2011 01:50:30 PM from Birmingham Ctl, UK , Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
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Yay! As a pro-Europe Briton (a minority + see sig and location) I welcome Croatia to the United European Federa... I mean, the European Union.

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25 FFShinra26th Jun 2011 12:08:48 PM from Ivalice, apparently , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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As usual, while I support the EU and the eventual creation of a united Europe (with the currently-existing monarchies retained along side the republics as local governments for the sake of tradition), I think the EU is expanding way too fast. Romania, Bulgaria, former SFRY, former Czechslovakia, and Cyprus (and a few others) should not be there for various reasons.

I do hope the Croats know what they're doing...
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