Anyway, the difference is that Implacable Man is the villainous hunting version of Determinator, he can be hurt, he can be stopped. But, no matter how much you stop him, he keep coming back.
That's not what the description for Implacable Man
says at all. And neither Determinator
nor Implacable Man
say anything about whether the character is a villain or not.
Looking at the pages, the only real difference in usage seems to be that an Implacable Man
is by definition a person, while a Juggernaut
might or might not be. And both pages practically come right out and say that The Juggernaut
is The Same but More
version of the Implacable Man
. And Implacable Man
also seems to think it's The Same but More
version of Made of Iron
. Not good.
If we're revamping descriptions, I'd concentrate on the character's story role more than their abilities. I initially dismissed Heatth's "villainous hunter" comment, but I think that may be essentially correct. The Implacable Man
has a goal, and no obstacle or enemy seems to be able to slow him down as he pursues it. (Superman
and The Hulk
really don't belong on the page, unless there are specific stories where they play Implacable Man
, in which case those stories should be cited.) They aren't necessarily
villains, but most of the time their target will in fact be either a protagonist or something or someone the protagonist wants to protect.
, meanwhile, may not have a clear goal, or any goal at all. But they're unstoppable, and they inevitably cause a lot of property damage when they pass (which an Implacable Man may or may not).
In short: Implacable Man
- unstoppable and chasing something. Juggernaut
- unstoppable and destroys anything that gets in its way. There'll be a lot of overlap, but they're still distinct enough to be two different tropes. I think.
Final question: why is the main title The Juggernaut
and not Juggernaut