Misuse (Screw The Rules I Make Them): ptitlej2qa66yo

It gets misused, on the page and the wicks. I still have tropers putting Aladdin as an example, when the Sultan clearly was stating things he COULD do as the Sultan, which is Forgot I Could Change the Rules. Not only is that trope still being mistaken for this, I also have misuses that fall under abusing power (which is wrong, but still allowed for the authority figure), and for characters who are not in authority, and just think they are above the law.

This trope is when people in authority do things that they are explicitly not empowered to do, and I would like it renamed to make that clear. BTW, I wrote up this trope, and have been seeing this misuse from all but day one, and I'm sick of it. I though this would have been an acceptable copy name, but it clearly didn't fit the trope the right way.

Bump.

Can somebody please help with some suggestions? I still have to correct bad examples.

Are there other misuses? It's possible people are misunderstanding that one example.

We may have to reassess the entire Screw The XI Have Y snowclone pattern if this is a problem. If we do have to change the name, and/or if it doesn't really fit the snowclone pattern (and Aladdin would), Rule Changing Player or Rule Making Player?

Did you read my whole OP? I also stated other forms of misuse, even if not anything specific. You can see a number of them in the page history, but a wick check will have to be done as well.

edited 25th Jun '11 8:38:43 AM by DragonQuestZ

I made a single proposition rename crowner here.

I can see why it might be a good idea to rename the trope. I do not think the snowclone title really serves it well, since it does not mention how the character in question considers him or herself to be above the rules.

Screw The Rules I Enforce Them, would take care of that Alladin problem. It would push the trope away from Forgot I Could Change the Rules as people that enforce the rules are not allowed to change them.

A lot of the examples seemed to point to soldiers and policemen and administrators, who do enforcing and not making. It would also apply to political positions like the Presidency, whose job is specifically to 'enforce the laws' rather than make them. This trope name would cover them, as is described in the description and examples, and avoid confusion with examples of people abusing authority they legitamently have.

Another solution would be to remove 'I Am the Trope' from the description. I noticied some examples only include that in their context. We could zap such examples for easy missue clean up.

Why is the crowner without a voting option?

I think it's been fixed. Somehow a duplicate crowner was made, and that one got attached instead. Not sure why that one wouldn't accept any options, though.

Most likely because it was a duplicate. I overlooked the one in the crowner list because it was a ptitle, and made a new one with the plaintext title.

edited 7th Jul '11 7:23:36 PM by Madrugada

God, I still have to get rid of bad examples (a new one on the page history), and yet the crowner is this close? Do tropers not know how much misuse this is getting? Or do they not know what it's about and don't think it's misused?

edited 8th Jul '11 1:51:58 PM by DragonQuestZ

Bumping for more votes.

Bump. Maybe we need to put this on the headlines.

Bump again.

How long can crowners go?

As long as they need to stabilize.

Cool. Renaming is in the lead now.

I assume that we'll be doing more of a Trope Transplant than a flat rename.

No, this is a rename. The trope is what it is, but the new name needs to make the important points clear.

Someone with authority breaks rules they are NOT given authority to break. Anything else, like abuse of power, or being legally above most laws, are separate tropes.

If the examples are being used as "people abusing power" that needs to be a damn trope. We just move the current description and any good examples to the new page.

No, we call that Abuse Of Power, because that's the term people use to describe that. And it's not only being misused for that. I also mentioned misuse for being legally above the law. Plus there are still some tropers mistaking this for Forgot I Could Change the Rules.

So the name shouldn't be used for any of them, as it's just, plain confusing.

Disambig then?

The problem is that Screw the Rules, I Make Them! actually is Forgot I Could Change the Rules, going by the name alone. But the important difference between those two is that the latter actually can change the rules, while the former only assumes he can, because he is in charge. A more accurate name would be Screw The Rules I Enforce Them. Or just Above The Law, so this would apply to people in general who think they are something better, not only those who work in law enforcement.

Bottom line, Screw the Rules, I Make Them! is about a double standard, while Forgot I Could Change the Rules is about an actual, legitimate change, often to an unfair, unpractical rule.

edited 25th Sep '11 12:52:12 PM by eX

No, the name might best be cut, since it's confusing people.

Think we can call the crowner?