Lost in Space
No, I don't think you're misunderstanding anything. Cut.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Think of the mooks!
I second the "cut" proposal. The only thing that would be applicable in real life is people underestimating just how much can fit in a bag of given dimensions.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
Agreed that this should be cut. It's the equivalent of having a Troper Tales page for The Tardis full of people saying - "My bedroom is a lot bigger than it looks".
"Well, it's a lifestyle"
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Same as any other "impossible in real Life trope": leave it and limit it to examples in RP Gs and original works by Tropers.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Considering as of right now there aren't any of those on the page, would it still be OK to cut it?
Lost in Space
Help me out, Madrugada - I thought tropers' original works were covered as any other media examples, not shoved into Troper Tales. Unpublished Works don't ever get examples in the main wiki.
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Yes, that.
edited 8th Jun '11 11:44:05 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
RPG examples are supposed to go in troper tales as are any media in which the experiences are personalized. This page should be cleared for RPG examples, but not locked.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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I've been getting behind and confused on the whole 'what goes in Troper Tales' thing.
Last I had heard Unpublished Works was for things that aren't available anywhere to read — because nobody but the author is going to be able to make an informed addition — and Troper works that were out there to be read (even if on FF.net or someplace like that) went under Fanfic or Troper Tales. If I'm wrong, ok, that's fine. But the discussion got so tangled and was taking place in several places at once, and I lost the thread of it a while back...
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Lost in Space
Last I heard, original works (aren't they all original?) were treated like any other work: if it's published, it's notable, and can be discussed in main articles. We decided a long time back to remove the distinction between Troper Works and other works.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
There's a difference between original works, like Fan Fic, and individual D&D sessions. You can't really write an example for the main page that says, "In my D&D game, we once stuck a vampire in a bag of holding filled with holy water." If it's a single fixed media, it belongs on the main page. If it's a troper's individual experience with media, it goes on troper tales.
edited 8th Jun '11 11:48:53 AM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
$50 a day, plus expenses
Catch is, though, I'm not entirely sure there could be an RPG example, as the game itself is the trope namer. "My character got a Bag Of Holding in a game" is like saying your character got a magic sword in a game.
Don't take life too seriously. It's only a temporary situation.
Lost in Space
RPG sessions and similar emergent media phenomena do specifically belong in Troper Tales, yes. I thought we had already acknowledged that. Perhaps I'm unclear as to where the line is being drawn in other posters' minds.
- Published media examples belong on main articles, not Troper Tales. This includes Troper Works.
- Unpublished Works do not go in any article, ever, except their own, until published.
- Emergent media examples, such as RPG sessions, go in Troper Tales.
edited 8th Jun '11 11:51:06 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
An example is more than just "X exists". It's "X exists, and this is what we did with it."
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Correct.
edited 8th Jun '11 11:51:10 AM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
$50 a day, plus expenses
Listing clever things a group has done with a Bag of Holding?
Can't say I like that idea, but I suppose it does fit the criteria, in a way.
Still in agreement that people talking about how much stuff they can fit into their pockets is not this trope.
Don't take life too seriously. It's only a temporary situation.
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^^^ Thanks. That's the first clear statement I've seen.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
RPG sessions are like Legos. If your example is like "Lego Bionicle Toy Line X is Color-Coded for Your Convenience depending on the Elemental Powers each one has," you can list it on the main page, but if your example is like "I built model spaceships out of Legos, and when I played with them, I gave the black-and-red one to the bad guys and the blue-and-gold one to the good guys," there's no way that's anything but Troper Tales.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this trope is defined as "bag/pocket/other means of storage which is bigger on the inside than on the outside", right? As in, something that can't happen in real life. So there really shouldn't be a Troper Tales for this. Literally every example is "I can fit a surprising amount of stuff in my pockets/purse/whatever", so it's not like we'd be losing anything that isn't misuse.
My first instinct was to send this to the cutlist, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding something first.