Okay, Plain Name seems to have a little problem. Right now, the definition is "a character that has a plain name", but this by its own is People Sit on Chairs. Besides, how do we decide if a name is plain?
I think we should change it for when a character points it out, not just when the character's name is simple and plain.
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Looking at the examples, this looks like another trope altogether. What I see is someone who has a plain name who is surrounded by fantastic ones.
The only problem is I think we already have that one as Aerith and Bob.
edited 7th Jun '11 12:22:08 PM by pokedude10
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^ Yes, an ordinary name as the exception to a setting of fantastic names is tropable, and yes, Aerith and Bob covers ...
Wait a minute, Aerith and Bob covers the general mixture of fantastic and plain names. It doesn't mandate that one is an exception to the other's rule (and whether we need that distinction at all is debatable).
Having a plain name might be a trope if it is explicitly pointed out that the name doesn't fit someone. Like the second coming of Jesus being named Teddy Jo. Someone who you would think would have a kickass name due to being someone very important instead has a Plain Name.
But that is not even really close this trope.
That's what I thought too, like the Harry Potter example (Voldemort doesn't like his given name, which says something about his character). It could also be a trope if it's someone that people would expect to have a grandiose name or title, but they turn out to have a really simple one (like Tim from Monty Python and the Holy Grail).
I think that Tom the Dark Lord trope pretty much covers most of the part of Plain Name that is not People Sitting On Chairs, so I would be fine with cutting Plain Name itself. Another option would be to rework it to fit its originally intended definition of "instances in which a character would be expected to have an extravagant name, but doesn't." Basically, I think the main options are the following:
Keep Plain Name as a supertrope to Tom the Dark Lord, rewrite the definition to emphasize that the trope is about "instances in which a character would be expected to have an extravagant name, but doesn't," cut examples that do not fit that definition, and possibly rename the trope to something like Extraordinary Person Plain Name*
I admit that I do not have the best answer to that question, but I would guess that types of characters who generally have plain names would not count. I am thinking that examples of say some super powerful lord of everything named Bill would be more of what the trope would cover.
Anyway, there is now a page action crowner for this trope here with the options I mentioned in my last post.
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Alternative Titles: Plain Name
17th Apr '12 12:30:05 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.