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Exploder Pretending to be human Since: Jan, 2001
Pretending to be human
#1: Jun 3rd 2011 at 11:20:22 PM

I'm not exactly a review whore, but I'm not really getting a lot of feedback compared to other stories in the same section on ff dot net. (It's on my Troper page)

But I'm wondering is it OK to want for more views/reviews? I don't do the "review or I won't update" thing, and I never will, but I'm still a little dissatisfied here.

bluepenguin Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Jun 3rd 2011 at 11:39:43 PM

It's natural to want more reviews. Probably every fanfic writer wants more than they get.

It is, however, not considered very endearing or mature to whine about not getting enough reviews.

(I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying... don't.)

edited 3rd Jun '11 11:39:56 PM by bluepenguin

Vilui Since: May, 2009
#3: Jun 4th 2011 at 11:45:19 AM

One small tip. Your troper page says "currently writing this" and you have to actually click to find out what "this" is. If you put "a Sonic the Hedgehog fanfic" or even a little more detail on the type of fanfic, then some people who look at your page might be more interested in checking it out.

Don't sweat it, though. Four reviews after a week or so? My own Soldiers of Love has got one review after more than a year.

EDIT: that link works even though it's red. No idea why.

edited 4th Jun '11 12:16:11 PM by Vilui

jewelleddragon Also known as Katz from Pasadena, CA Since: Apr, 2009
Also known as Katz
#4: Jun 4th 2011 at 11:59:28 AM

It's just a law of nature that people, myself included, generally want their work to be read more than they want to read others' work.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#5: Jun 4th 2011 at 12:00:37 PM

What dragon says. I've been aching for more feedback from various things I've put on the internet for...about 4 years now.

Read my stories!
EldritchBlueRose The Puzzler from A Really Red Room Since: Apr, 2010
The Puzzler
#6: Jun 4th 2011 at 12:02:03 PM

How about you give feedback on the works of other tropers on Troper Critique Club? Chances are people never heard of you and / or don't know that you are writing something.

Has ADD, plays World of Tanks, thinks up crazy ideas like children making spaceships for Hitler. Occasionally writes them down.
msnoodles contessa di cavatappi Since: May, 2011
contessa di cavatappi
#7: Jun 4th 2011 at 12:27:12 PM

I think I'm weird in that I would take one long review over 5 "this is great!" reviews. It's a lot more gratifying to me when someone's reading your story through a critical, thoughtful lens, whereas pages of single-line reviews mean, at best, hey a lot of people enjoyed this.

Nothing wrong with wanting feedback though, especially if your primary aim is to entertain people. If someone says "I write purely for self-fulfillment and the reviews I get are just a bonus" then I'd believe them, but it's human nature to like positive attention.

Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard
#8: Jun 4th 2011 at 12:28:16 PM

[up]You're not weird. Having reviews like that means that someone thoroughly appreciates your work and that's just a nice feeling in general.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#9: Jun 5th 2011 at 12:58:41 PM

It's just a law of nature that people, myself included, generally want their work to be read more than they want to read others' work.

This is not always true. I'd rather read other people's work then have them read my work, due mainly to my total inability to take criticism.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#11: Jun 5th 2011 at 3:55:39 PM

Yep. I've been known to go into Minor Insult Meltdowns over overly-harsh critics. Since I only write to entertain myself anyway, I don't bother to try and publish any of my fiction.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#12: Jun 5th 2011 at 3:56:48 PM

Oh, you misunderstand my interest. People who are willing to slog through stories tend to be popular.

Well, at least they are to me.

Read my stories!
MildGuy I squeeze gats. from the bed I made. Since: Jan, 2011
I squeeze gats.
#13: Jun 5th 2011 at 9:47:53 PM

What's tough is seeing a writer and friend get far fewer reviews than they deserve.

Seamus Another Perfect Day from the Quantum Savanna Since: Jul, 2009
Another Perfect Day
#14: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:00:38 PM

I've got the same problem. I chalk it up to shyness; asking "Hey, read this and tell me what you think!" to veritable strangers can be difficult for me.

Then I remember it's the internet and slap myself a few times. Then the cycle repeats.

edited 5th Jun '11 10:01:18 PM by Seamus

I've got two guns pointed west and a broken compass.
Arctimon Grin and bear it from Maryland Since: Nov, 2009
Grin and bear it
#15: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:06:30 PM

[up][up]I hate it when people who write good stuff get less reviews than the people who write crap and just get flames saying so.

Granted, they're not reviews, per se, but still.

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Sharysa Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Jun 5th 2011 at 11:53:21 PM

It's perfectly okay to want more reviews. My fanfics have a depressingly low review/hit ratio—I think my most blatant one was 1 review to 80 hits.

I've accepted that the more time it takes to write something, the less reviews it gets.

But I totally don't make superficial updates to bump my stories higher so more people will see them.

msnoodles contessa di cavatappi Since: May, 2011
contessa di cavatappi
#17: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:15:34 AM

[up]

1 review to 80 hits? I'm actually about getting there. I don't take it to heart, considering all the stories I might glance over (and hey, even enjoy!) without leaving a review, mostly because I feel unhelpful if it's nothing but compliments, and "I didn't like this but I read anyway" is just unnecessary.

If you're talking about fanfic then... it mostly depends on the fandom, actually. Friend of mine showed me his old HSM story which was predictably pretty not good, 66 reviews anyway. Which relatively speaking isn't a HUGE amount, until you look at fandoms like Fire Emblem I guess (having glance/stalked your ffnet page, Sharysa) which is relatively modest? If your story's got reviews pushing into the 100s then it's an exception. At 40,000 words I've got 30 for one story, but if at least another person's enjoying reading it then I can't really complain, haha. I still totally understand the "more opinions would be nice" mentality.

animemetalhead Runs on Awesomeness from Ashwood Landing, ME Since: Apr, 2010
Runs on Awesomeness
#18: Jun 6th 2011 at 2:01:13 AM

I don't even wanna know what the review/hit ratio is for my stories. It's atrocious, I'll tell you that much. 3 chapters into my latest and I've gotten 2 reviews. Not great for the self esteem, and it doesn't exactly help me improve...

No one believes me when I say angels can turn their panties into guns.
MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#19: Jun 6th 2011 at 3:14:31 AM

Since I post here, all I can say is at the very least, you KNOW how many people read your story. I don't even know that. Makes you feel even more alone.

Read my stories!
Nomic Exitus Acta Probat from beyond the Void Since: Jan, 2001
Exitus Acta Probat
#20: Jun 6th 2011 at 6:59:52 AM

It can be somewhat annoying when you can't get any critique on your work. I wold rather like to know what people like of my comics, but so far I haven't gotten any comments. I'm getting a bit annoyed that I do get comments and favourites on the other stuff that I do, but not the thing I think I would most need critique in.

Nayrani Sight of Eternity from Überwald Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Sight of Eternity
#21: Jun 6th 2011 at 7:14:31 AM

Same here, I can't seem to get anymore reviews all that much. I do get alerts and favorites, but I'd appreciate some insight to why they decided to do so in the first place. Even if it's just, "Hey, I loved it", it's good enough for me.

"Liar liar on the wall, give the world to me..."
Sharysa Since: Jan, 2001
#22: Jun 7th 2011 at 12:03:28 PM

Yeah, I focus on favorites/alerts to make me feel better as well.

Fulcanelli Little Laguz Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Less than three
Little Laguz
#23: Jun 7th 2011 at 1:43:53 PM

Yes, always.

I have one story I wrote earlier that I hope will make it into a horror anthology, and I have been dying for more feedback on it. I've already sent it in, but I could always use improvement.

The only reason why I like waking up is because I like falling asleep.
Octo Prince of Dorne from Germany Since: Mar, 2011
Prince of Dorne
#24: Jun 7th 2011 at 2:35:16 PM

Yeah, I focus on favorites/alerts to make me feel better as well.
Heh, indeed. That does generate some sympathy for AHR, who apparently can't even get that...

As has been reconfirmed countless times here, the wish for more reviews is natural. In a way that is the entire point of any creative activity - to get, uh, acceptance, I guess. So, it's, well, psychologically fundamental. *shrugs* But what can one do about it, eh?

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MildGuy I squeeze gats. from the bed I made. Since: Jan, 2011
I squeeze gats.
#25: Jun 7th 2011 at 11:17:02 PM

For me, it's not just higher numbers of hits or favs or "reviews." Writing shouldn't be all about earning the highest score possible, as if it were a video game (though it's always cool to break records).

I want to know if readers experience a visceral emotional reaction to my work. I want to know if I'm reaching them. Really making them feel it. Sometimes, it's nice to be reminded that we're not just voices quacking into a void.

I don't count on reader reviews offering usable critique. That's what beta readers and editors are for. Though I am grateful if it by chance comes along. It's strange that so many writers, or at least fan fic writers, on the internet expect total strangers to blunder by at random and offer brilliant and insightful feedback. Readers don't owe anyone a writer's workshop, man.


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