Zone of the Enders HD collection.

Wouldn't that be more Cultural Cringe?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure people who like listening to japanese voices aren't a race.

Not at all. The reasons these types of games don't have dual language tracks is to discourage the Japanese citizens from importing the cheaper "international" versions.

What do you mean by cheap?

Also, how come recently, Street Fighter IV and the Soul Series games have dual language options?

edited 20th Jul '13 12:52:44 AM by HallowHawk

Because it's getting more common, but it's still not everywhere. Like, Atlus still rarely does it, Namco Bandai almost never does it, and Konami rarely does it as well.

Part of it is because there's a license fee associated with the Japanese track. Some of the publishers want to save a little money.

I got the HD collection after hearing about the patch and I gotta say, the first is a strange game. It seems most of the development cycle was spent elaborating a flashy combat system (and to its credit, it is very flashy, though rather shallow) but had far less time to built an actual game around it. The pacing is pitiful, you fight the 3 same or so enemies for the first half of the game and the game is padded to the gill with inane fetch quests ("'k so now we need to find an item to get past this contrived roadblock. Have fun backtracking through EVERY SINGLE LEVELS in the hope you randomly stumble upon it!"). I'd be lying I said I didn't have fun, but it's not very good either.

Hopefully, the 2nd Runner is as good as they say.

The first game was a tech demo, that was sold with the help of an actual tech demo. The second game has a more dynamic battle system, no more incredibly whiny protagonist, and the levels are varied enough that they're interesting.

Unfortunately, it's also plagued by one of the worst localizations known to man.

But still, Dingo. The only man who can possibly make having a first and last name taken from two different animals work.

At first I assumed it was a callsign. The first time he's called by his name the voice acting makes it sound that way.

"Dingo. Egret."

You never know.

Aye to that. It's awkward (and the poor acting from everyone except ADA and the enemy commander guy doesn't help) but not quite awkward enough to become enjoyable... though there's an amusing exchange early in the game that I am sure will remain burned in my mind.

edit: oh, you were talking about the sequel. reading comprehension fail :V.

edited 28th Jul '13 6:16:24 AM by Glowsquid

Unless the voice acting is really bad I don't even notice things like that. As long as they're not speaking in monotone or...

Talkng like how is not good.

edited 28th Jul '13 9:35:51 AM by Azure

The voice acting in the sequel is actually pretty good. It's actually kind of strange how well they can act the weird translation.

It's like the opposite of Baten Kaitos or Arc Rise Fantasia where the text translation is great, but the voice acting completely sucks.

What makes a weird translation happen, anyway?

How is the translation weird though?

It seems pretty normal to me.

It's not bad, just that a lot of the phrasing is kind of strange.

That sort of thing tends to happen either when the proofreader or editor isn't paying attention or if the translators aren't native english speakers. You also get stuff like Castle Shikigami II where it seems that they machine translated it. And got a bunch of really horrible actors.

Essentially, Zone of the Enders 2 just has a kind of awkward translation. The plot is still easily comprehensible, some of the phrasing is just weird. It certainly isn't a really bad translation, it's just sub-par.

many people say the voice-actors of ZOE games are bad.The dialogue was localized a bit weird,but the voice-actors themselves can't be blamed for that,especially when ZOE games used the same talent pool of actors that Telltale uses for their games(i.e. Dingo was voiced by Agent Superball from Sam & Max and Zakat's pilot was voiced by Kid Beyond,the first voice-actor of Max)and,besides,when you have Sweet Tooth and Ghostface(Roger Jackson is a great voice-actor,he was awesome as Nohman.Then again,he nails voicing creept/hammy villains)in the same game,it can't be that bad,right?Hell,the english voice-actors were actually more consistent than the Japanese ones,since in the second game,they Darrin'd all the returning characters except ADA and Viola(with Nohman having three voice-actors:Masashi Ebara in the first game,Jouji Nakata in his Doloroes anime cameo,and Jurota Kosugi in the second game.).Jojo's Bizarre Adventure OV As dub was another example of how these voice-actors were badly used despite them being good

so,I found something interesting,even though it's old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3bcj4IW7fA

somebody subbed the game on his own and posted on youtube,clarifying some weird stuff from the localization(remember the "second hand" thing?it actually meant whom they were quoting about using power for the things they believe in.)

anyone have ideas how to achieve high score on EX Mission Original Event 03 with Naked Jehuty?it's impossible that thing!I remember clearing that when I played the PS 2 Special Edition long time but I don't remember what I did,it's too hard.Does anybody have tips for this mission?

So, I have a chance to get the HD release of the two games, but I won't be able to get the patch. Still go for it?

Yeah, if you don't mind the issues. If you do, don't bother.

Wound up going ahead and getting it.

Jehuty lives.

From the pre-Tokyo Game Show 2017 press conference: Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner is getting a PS4 remaster!

Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner: M∀RS

Includes:

• New sound design
• 4K Resolution
• VR support
• Also coming to Steam (and Steam VR)
• Developed by Konami and Cygames
• Is not a pachinko game

Here's the Japanese trailer:

And English trailer:

Um...are we still doing the #FucKonami thing or has everyone gotten bored of it by now?

edited 19th Sep '17 7:18:51 AM by TargetmasterJoe

WOO! This and Final Fantasy 9 remake!