Shotamouse reporting.I heard that this is gonna premiere there in the US this June 16. I'm posting this here because, well, I'm part of the production team and so I can see what other people here think about it. Here's a few clips in case anyone's interested.
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cuter, cuddlier EdmondCool! I saw the commercials for it. It looks interesting so far and I'll be sure to catch the premiere.
edited 31st May '11 4:14:58 AM by MoeDantes
Don't call me Hikaru.Disclaimer the first: I am not the show's target audience. Any criticism, constructive or otherwise is made with the knowledge that if I happen to enjoy this, it's a happy coincidence more than anything, and that my aims and those of the creators are not necessarily the same. That said, the fact that I have to actually make the disclaimer doesn't speak very highly of the show and/or its trailers: while there are many cartoons aimed towards the 8-14 crowd that I felt I could enjoy even as a person in my mid-twenties, I do not get that "vibe" from the show. Conceptually speaking, I don't think there's a place for the show. Super Robots have been done countless times, and unless backed up by some truly spectacular writing (whose quality, to be fair, doesn't come across well in trailers), or production values (the way Sym-Bionic Titan was), a show without some kind of hook will never be anything other than serviceable—and Power Rangers already has "serviceable super robot show" covered. Unfortunately, from the trailer, I the show feels completely unexceptional from an animation and conceptual stand-point—in fact, it feels like a cartoon made by the numbers, using tropes as if they were directions from a cookbook. While the same could be said about the original Voltron at least has "historical artifact" in its favor. Strong writing could help this latest incarnation, and I could very well be wrong in my assessment of the concept, but I'm not particularly interested in seeing if that's the case.
edited 31st May '11 6:02:24 AM by DoKnowButchie
I agree, pretty much entirely. But maybe I'll talk about how much I love it to troll the inevitable hordes of thirty-year olds on Youtube who will complain incessently about it.
This show reminds me of Speed Racer: The Next Generation, in that it looks way too much like a student's fan project (in terms of production values) to be official.
Ok...if Allura is the senior team member here, and she appears to be so, why ain't she piloting the Black Lion, which forms the head of Voltron? And please, no one say "Because her lion is the Blue Lion, " 'cause in the original just about everybody piloted everybody else's lion when there was a need.
Shotamouse reporting.@Butchie: That's a good way to put it, I guess. However, rather than as a sequel I tend to treat it as a different animal on its own. And about the tropes assembled from a cookbook...let me abuse the Tropes Are Not Bad mantra and just, well, give it a chance. @Gray: Allura's not the only senior member here. The whole original Voltron gang is here, and the new kids are their recruits that they'll train to take over Voltron one day. @R Taco: *shrugs* I dunno; that kind of complaint (the one in the lines of "inferior animation") is what's common among the complainers. Though may I let the people know here that Toon City isn't exactly a "throwaway" studio—several Disney and international projects have been done here—in case there are those who get that idea.
edited 31st May '11 7:23:54 PM by ladycoffee
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Difficult to judge the show from the trailer. I think it could work, though I'd really have to see a few episodes first. The style may take a moment to get used to, but then again I'm pretty much used to anything at this point, so it really shouldn't be an issue.
The Final ECW ChampionVoltron again? That's it, I'm going to join the revive titan fans. Our kids deserve a series that hasn't been rebooted three times.
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Not to be rude, but it looked ugly to me.
Don't call me Hikaru.
@Butchie: That's a good way to put it, I guess. However, rather than as a sequel I tend to treat it as a different animal on its own. And about the tropes assembled from a cookbook...let me abuse the Tropes Are Not Bad mantra and just, well, give it a chance.I'm not sure I understand; whether or not it is a sequel has little bearing of my (lack of) interest, and I'm not sure how I indicated otherwise. In any case, let me be clear that even if I don't enjoy it, there's no indication that it's actual target audience won't. In any case, I hope it's successful, or at least becomes a stepping stone to bigger and better things for everyone involved. So good luck y'all.
The commercials for it try too hard to draw in today's target demographic, in that they incorporate a hip-hop tune about Voltron. But then, any kid's commercial is forced to me, after all my years of forming a jaded view point. Funny you compare this to Speed Racer: The Next Generation. That show wasn't even hand-drawn- it was produced in Macromedia Flash (yes, NOT EVEN Adobe Flash!) with poorly-rendered out Maya racecars, so this Voltron adaptation, from a bitter toonhead's standpoint, is better than that!
cuter, cuddlier EdmondJust a question: Is the new series going to answer the question of whether or not Voltron is sentient? The old cartoon (both in English and Japanese) seemed to hint that he was, but never came out and said so. Also, is it in-continuity with Voltron: The Third Dimension?
Gamer-turning-makerI hope it isn't in continuity with... that abysmal schlock.
cuter, cuddlier EdmondTo be honest, it's been years since I've seen The Third Dimension. Was it really that bad? I remember it having this cool plot premise where King Zarkon had become good, but might have actually been playing both sides of the fence.
Gamer-turning-makerWell, the whole Zarkon thing was just the dumbest bit. The alliance was helmed by a really, really stupid robot who, throughout the course of the whole series, refused to listen to the Voltron Force at all. Bit him in the ass when Zarkon revealed that he was evil after all.
Darkness and DisgraceOne problem I'm having is the lack of visual consistency. The humans are all done in that psudo-comic book style common for action cartoons, but the lions have enormous heads and jawlines. I'm really not liking the look of the cockpits, either. Having seen quite a few of Toon City's other works, this one is by far the weakest visually. Also, I'll admit, as a Super Robot fan, it's not looking good from that standpoint. It's a problem with TV CGI mecha in genral, to be honest: no stretch and squish or stylized angles, leaving the machine looking more like a toy. Blassreiter and Sym-Bionic Titan are two of the only shows I've ever seen that pull it off, and the former is technically about Powered Armor.
edited 2nd Jun '11 12:26:10 PM by TheGunheart
I see the Awesomeness.
The alliance was helmed by a really, really stupid robot who, throughout the course of the whole series, refused to listen to the Voltron Force at all.If you'll recall, the robot had been compromised the entire time.
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The commercials for it try too hard to draw in today's target demographic, in that they incorporate a hip-hop tune about Voltron.No, THIS is making Voltron hip-hop!
@ Kyun: Macromedia Flash and Adobe Flash are the same thing; the former became the latter when Adobe purchased it.
Which is why he made it clear that SR:TNG was made in the version of MACROMEDIA, not Adobe. They worked with an outdated version. An actual company that never updates its software is unprofessional.
edited 2nd Jun '11 6:34:14 PM by Shota
Gamer-turning-maker^^^^I couldn't remember, actually. Never got to see the finale apart from Zarkon's reveal.
Darkness and DisgraceI remember seeing the big cliffhanger where the lions are apparently destroyed and the Zarkon reveal...but I missed some episodes, and then suddenly they've got a Stealth Voltron (seriously, all the badass upgrades out there, and the go with stealth?), and they're dealing with some kind of hunter robot that talks in rhyme. It was then that I proceeded to ignore the series and try my best to erase it from my memory.
I see the Awesomeness.Yep, the robot became very cooperative once they got the compromising programs out. Seriously, it's the only time I've seen a good reason for an Obstructive Bureaucrat in a kids show.
Darkness and DisgraceOn a side note, any idea what the hell a dynatherm is? I mean, the other parts of the Techno Babble are easy enough to figure out (something to hold the robot together, some spacey-wacey solar cells, and big freakin' engines to move it), but never for the life of me was I able to get the "dynatherms connected" part.
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