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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#1: May 30th 2011 at 1:44:33 PM

A three-part poll:

First, do you believe that the average person is capable of making good decisions about their own life?

Second, do you believe that the average person is capable of making good political decisions?

Third, do you believe that you are capable of making good decisions for yourself?

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#2: May 30th 2011 at 1:46:22 PM

Yes
No
Yes

I've made mistakes but I think I've made a net total profit out of life so far by listening to myself and others who have already made those mistakes.

EDIT: That being said, I don't think any one person is good at making political decisions. I think a group of people with various specialties are good at making political decisions because they look at every important detail and decide from there.

edited 30th May '11 1:51:06 PM by Usht

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nzm1536 from Poland Since: May, 2011
#3: May 30th 2011 at 1:48:58 PM

1.It depends - at first many people are naive and clueless; some become mature, some don't and repeat the same mistakes

2. No - voting habits confirm it

3. Generally yes, but I am far from flawless

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#4: May 30th 2011 at 1:50:47 PM

1. Yes.

2. Yes.

3. Yes.

Of course, being capable of doing something does not necessarily entail doing it (and this holds for all three the cases).

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cityofmist turning and turning from Meanwhile City Since: Dec, 2010
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#5: May 30th 2011 at 1:54:38 PM

  • No. (Well, sometimes.)
  • No.
  • From my perspective it looks as if I am, but there is much evidence to the contrary.

edited 30th May '11 1:55:14 PM by cityofmist

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#6: May 30th 2011 at 1:54:52 PM

- Maybe - Maybe - Maybe

All depends on when who and what is being asked. In general people are capable of making good decisions about their own life and politics, its too often the sport of people who are trying to convince themselves of their own corectness that says that "No-one but me has the right idea".

In general I think people are likely to make both good and bad decisions, its just safer to start with the idea that bad decisions are going to be slightly more commonplace and try and prevent that through diseminating information.

brownmouse 0^10 = nothing at all Since: Nov, 2010
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#7: May 30th 2011 at 2:01:30 PM

1. Yes, though they do not always possess enough clear or non-contradictory information to make those decisions.

2. Yes, but they lack the information (as above), but also have their political decisions filtered through a system that does not reflect political beliefs, and whose inner workings they don't really understand.

3. Most of the time. I can act out of bad information, stubbornness and spite, just like anyone else. Even if I make the proper decisions, I, like most people, don't always have the self-discipline to follow through with the decisions I make.

#8: May 30th 2011 at 2:05:53 PM

1. Yes.

2. Yes.

3. Yes.

Of course, being capable of doing something does not necessarily entail doing it (and this holds for all three the cases).

This.

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SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#10: May 30th 2011 at 2:10:13 PM

Yes. No. Yes.

That's why I believe that people should generally run their own lives and completely abstain from bossing other people around.

edited 30th May '11 2:10:49 PM by SavageHeathen

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BrayPhantom from Cloudsdale Since: Jul, 2010
#11: May 30th 2011 at 4:33:34 PM

1. Yes

2. No

3. Maybe. I haven't really had to make any serious decisions yet.

edited 30th May '11 4:34:19 PM by BrayPhantom

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#13: May 30th 2011 at 4:55:47 PM

Yes, yes and yes - but only with sufficient effort and know-how.

Politics is the area where I'd expect the average person to be least likely to make a good decision, because to make such a decision requires a lot more effort, and the short-term consequences relevant to that person's life will be a lot less obvious.

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#14: May 30th 2011 at 5:16:10 PM

I must admit, its nice seeing the wide spread of viewpoints.

Its also noticeable who seems to think that anyone but them is incapable of making thought out political ideas.

AllanAssiduity Since: Dec, 1969
#15: May 30th 2011 at 5:22:59 PM

People make the best decisions if they can a) make the decision repeatedly, and b) if the effects of their choice give immediate feedback.

Things such as politics allow a), but not b). And therein is the problem.

Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland Since: Oct, 2011
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#16: May 30th 2011 at 5:23:55 PM

Yes.

In most cases and given accurate information.

Yes.

I think we need more (not complete) direct democracy, we should not leave all important decisions to career politicians. If people are not allowed to make important political choices outside local and general elections, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, they may become apathetic and ignorant towards politics and thus uninformed and unable to make important decisions wisely. It also breeds contempt and arrogance amongst the political class which is allowed to entrench and embellish itself.

This is definitely true for the UK. It is similar in the USA, where illuminati and corporations can almost buy the winner of an election, and have a strong lobby influence within the legislature.

edited 30th May '11 6:01:00 PM by Shichibukai

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#17: May 30th 2011 at 5:51:13 PM

First, do you believe that the average person is capable of making good decisions about their own life?
Yes.

Second, do you believe that the average person is capable of making good political decisions?
No.

Third, do you believe that you are capable of making good decisions for yourself?
No.

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#18: May 30th 2011 at 5:55:55 PM

Yes, yes and yes - but only with sufficient effort and know-how.

Politics is the area where I'd expect the average person to be least likely to make a good decision, because to make such a decision requires a lot more effort, and the short-term consequences relevant to that person's life will be a lot less obvious.

I agree with Booby OG on this one.

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Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland Since: Oct, 2011
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#19: May 30th 2011 at 6:03:14 PM

Mass media propaganda plays a big part, though. They appeal to emotions and treat the masses like children. How can one expect the average, busy wage slave to make a good, informed political decision when they are spoonfed lies and soundbites of lies and more lies? The democratic political process is unfortunately manipulated by vested elite interests which warp the minds and opinions of the public to their own ends.

edited 30th May '11 6:12:47 PM by Shichibukai

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#20: May 30th 2011 at 6:09:17 PM

You can't really. In a perfect world, we'd have unlimited research time to figure out who we wanted to vote for and such.

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#21: May 30th 2011 at 6:24:14 PM

If the question is merely are these groups capable then yes to everything. Does this mean they will consistently make good decisions? Depends.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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Beholderess from Moscow Since: Jun, 2010
#23: May 30th 2011 at 7:37:00 PM

Yes - even if it might be decisions other people do not consider good for them. What is good for one's life is subjecting

No - as been said above, voting habits confirm that

No - this particular one is not good at making decisions. She is below average in that.

If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
victorinox243 victorinox243 Since: Nov, 2009
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#24: May 30th 2011 at 7:41:52 PM

Yes, yes, and yes.

Capability does not equal performance. Everybody has the "capability" to be anything or do anything.

BlackHumor Unreliable Narrator from Zombie City Since: Jan, 2001
#25: May 30th 2011 at 7:48:16 PM

Sometimes, sometimes, and sometimes.

Political decisions aren't any more difficult to make than normal ones. Sure, some people consistantly vote for idiots, but overall I generally trust in the wisdom of crowds.

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