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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#26: Sep 27th 2011 at 9:15:09 AM

[up] Except if we merge under the name Seven-Year Rule half the examples wont fit the name at all.

If we merge we need a new name.

Btw when I first read NOHAMOTYO I thought of the nohamasho cult in Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei who worship people who sleep in their own piss at the beach... just wanted to add that [lol]

edited 27th Sep '11 9:17:22 AM by Raso

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#27: Sep 27th 2011 at 1:24:51 PM

There are examples already that are neither exactly seven nor exactly two years. The name doesn't have to be restrictive. And this is not a trope, so it's really not a big deal. Basically, if you have another name to suggest, and you want to do the extra cleanup (renaming both will double the amount of work required), give it to us. I've already said I'll support any name that isn't a cryptic acronym. But I'm not going to bother trying to think up other names, because I think Seven-Year Rule is close enough for a trivia page that borders on whining.

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#28: Sep 27th 2011 at 1:47:29 PM

[up] I agree. The fact that not all the examples are seven is immaterial. Same reason we did NOT rename You Gotta Have Blue Hair, people get that it's not just blue hair (or not just seven years in this case). It's less work to merge, tweak the description on Seven-Year Rule and call solved.

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#29: Sep 27th 2011 at 7:10:28 PM

[up] And I see so many entries on character pages saying "You Gotta Have Blue Hair: literally" and crap it drives me nuts that we didn't rename it to something like You Gotta Have Colorful Hair or split the whole thing by Hair colors.... Blue Hair is nothing special... anyway that's offtopic.

IMO if ya pick a name that only covers 1/2 the examples good chance that is pretty much all your going to get in the examples department too.

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#30: Sep 27th 2011 at 7:45:26 PM

Yet you're not offering anything better. Until you do, Seven-Year Rule gets my full support.

As I said before, if this were a trope, I might care a little more, but whether a trivia page gets sufficient examples is a matter of very little concern.

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DonaldthePotholer from Miami's In-State Rival Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#32: Sep 29th 2011 at 1:15:13 PM

For reference, Paragraph 3 of the current description of Seven-Year Rule (emphasis mine)

This is because of a relatively Fleeting Demographic. The average wrestling federation tends to get heavy turnover in its fanbase — new fans discover the product, and old fans get fed up or move on. That makes this possible.

So, how do I go about setting up us the Crowners

?

edited 29th Sep '11 1:16:43 PM by DonaldthePotholer

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#33: Sep 30th 2011 at 6:35:16 PM

I think everyone agrees on the merge, so we just need a names crowner for the merged trope. Since we haven't officially decided to reject Seven-Year Rule, that can be one of the names on the crowner.

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Gillespie Talkative Loon from Western Canada Since: Sep, 2011
#35: Sep 30th 2011 at 8:36:07 PM

I put in some initial options:

Any more suggestions?

edited 30th Sep '11 8:37:27 PM by Gillespie

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#36: Sep 30th 2011 at 10:43:58 PM

I tossed in the one Raso liked. Seemed like it was a decent option. I'm tempted to vote yes for all, but I'll hold off for a bit and see if there's any more comments that might sway me in some particular direction.

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Gillespie Talkative Loon from Western Canada Since: Sep, 2011
#37: Oct 2nd 2011 at 11:26:33 AM

Tum tee tum, bumping for votes.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#38: Oct 2nd 2011 at 12:09:52 PM

Demografic refresh? Seriously? That doesn't even sound like it means anything.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#39: Oct 2nd 2011 at 10:52:05 PM

Added Demographic Rollover. Same general idea as refresh, but a better connotation.

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#40: Oct 5th 2011 at 12:24:32 PM

Looking a lot like Fleeting Demographic Rule is going to win the day in any case.

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#42: Oct 15th 2011 at 5:58:02 PM

15 days and a rather clear majority for Fleeting Demographic Rule. We can probably call this now and start the work.

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#43: Dec 11th 2011 at 7:14:27 AM

Bump. We did decide to merge these, yes?

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Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#44: Jan 11th 2012 at 6:34:23 AM

Yup. At least, the crowner is closed at 22-to-3 in favor.

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#45: Jan 25th 2012 at 7:20:21 AM

Merged the pages; getting started on the wicks.

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Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#47: Jan 25th 2012 at 8:34:39 AM

Thank you. Can I make Seven-Year Rule and NOHAMOTYO into redirects once I'm done with the Wicks?

Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#48: Jan 26th 2012 at 4:54:19 AM

The wicks are okay except for five which either don't exist or are locked. I made the redirects and noted it on Renamed Tropes and the thread (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=mpsec5f7y4p492v5gegy57qj).

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#49: Jan 26th 2012 at 10:01:14 AM

I took out the ghost wicks. The only old wick remaining now is on an archive page.

Is there anything left to do here? Do merges get notices the way renames do?

edited 26th Jan '12 10:02:06 AM by ArcadesSabboth

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#50: Jan 26th 2012 at 10:47:57 AM

Arcades Sabboth,
From what I can tell, merges usually do not require putting notes on the renamed tropes page unless the merged page has a new name. Since in this case, Fleeting Demographic Rule is new, I think it is appropriate to mention the change on the Renamed Tropes page and in the renamed tropes thread.

It looks like that was already done though, so it seems like we can go ahead and lock this thread.

edited 26th Jan '12 10:49:43 AM by LouieW

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AlternativeTitles: NOHAMOTYO
30th Sep '11 7:39:11 PM

Crown Description:

Consensus in the thread is to merge NOHAMOTYO and Seven Year Rule. This is to determine the name of the merged article. (NOHAMOTYO is not an option.)

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