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Deconstructions:

It's easy, mmkay?
Deconstructions can make things lighter and softer! If you deconstruct a trope that provides a source of conflict, or a grimdark trope, then your story is a more pleasant place for the characters.
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 27 jasonwill 2, Sat, 28th May '11 5:19:11 PM from West Virginia
I don't know if that is a yes or no. Shrek seemed pretty lighthearted.
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Yes, Shrek is most likely the first deconstruction most of us were exposed to.
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It's easy, mmkay?
TBH, it seemed kind of like an Indecisive Deconstruction to me, more leaning towards parody. It still got the classic happy ending trope in there, the villain got his comeuppance, and it even had the now horrendously common Dance Party Ending.
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 30 nrjxll, Sun, 29th May '11 12:35:49 PM Relationship Status: Not war
[up]And there someone goes with the "Deconstruction = Darker and Edgier" thing again.

I'm not sure whether I would consider Shrek an Indecisive Deconstruction or not, but I'm frankly dismayed that your reason for thinking so is that it had a Happy Ending.

I think the best term is probably Affectionate Parody, though.

edited 29th May '11 12:36:29 PM by nrjxll

[up]I think his/her problem is that it had a classic happy ending. The kind just got eaten by a dragon? The princess disappeared and in her place there's a monster? Everyone just goes horray!

edited 30th May '11 12:24:48 AM by Dealan

It's easy, mmkay?
The thing is that a deconstruction must fundamentally not be whatever it's deconstructing at the end. The point of a deconstruction is basically "Okay, I put together all the ingredients to make X, but I didn't get X, I got Y." Since Shrek had a standard fairytale happy ending, it's not a deconstruction of fairy tales, at best it's a reconstruction or parody of them. If it had a sad ending, a bittersweet ending, or even a nonstandard happy ending, I would accept it as a deconstruction.
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 33 nrjxll, Sun, 29th May '11 12:58:17 PM Relationship Status: Not war
[up]That's not what I understand the point of a deconstruction to be (although there's more then one way to do it, of course), but I take your meaning. That makes more sense now.

As I said, I personally lean towards viewing Shrek as an Affectionate Parody, not a deconstruction of any sort.

 34 Bobby G, Sun, 29th May '11 1:05:18 PM from the Silvery Tay
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I think Shrek might have deconstructive elements, but is mostly parody.

The ending wasn't entirely conventional, though - it was an inversion of the standard fairytale ending where the monster turns into a prince.

edited 29th May '11 1:05:43 PM by BobbyG

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Shrek? It was an Affectionate Parody, but it was at the same time a Deconstructor Fleet.
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Deconstructive Parody much?
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 37 jasonwill 2, Sun, 29th May '11 7:13:05 PM from West Virginia
ah! so confusing.
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