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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#1: May 23rd 2011 at 2:36:30 PM

Opinions on this?

Its becoming almost the norm now. I'm trying to be neutral to avoid this being seen as a complaint thread, but I want to know what other people think about it.

Alucard Lazy? from Vancouver, BC Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#2: May 23rd 2011 at 2:37:49 PM

Fine by me as long as the content isn't exclusive, but overall I could do without it (I don't generally pre-order anyway).

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#3: May 23rd 2011 at 2:39:35 PM

Well its usually it is exclusive content.

Battlefield 3 just announced Preorder DLC that is exclusive....in a multiplayer competitive game. sad

occono from Ireland. Since: Apr, 2009
#4: May 23rd 2011 at 2:50:11 PM

Hate it hate it hate it.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#5: May 23rd 2011 at 3:02:18 PM

As long as its something that's either purely cosmetic (say, mounts in World Of Warcraft) or it comes out latter for everyone I'm fine with it.

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#6: May 23rd 2011 at 3:38:19 PM

I never play DLC anyways, so . . .

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Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
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#7: May 23rd 2011 at 4:29:24 PM

It's...like only giving a completed game to those who pre-ordered...

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X2X You'll never see it coming. from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
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#8: May 23rd 2011 at 4:33:51 PM

I'm definitely not a fan of of it. It seems like whatever is being split up as preorder bonuses among X number of stores could have simply been integrated into the actual game at the time of its release, but wasn't just to fetch a few extra bucks. It's a pretty stingy business transaction if you ask me.

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#9: May 23rd 2011 at 6:52:05 PM

If it's merely cosmetic and just a cool little thing, I'm fine with it. If it's something that can have an effect on a multiplayer game then it's a bit shady.

Noelemahc Noodle Implements FTW! from Moscow, Russia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
#10: May 23rd 2011 at 10:22:36 PM

The cosmetic rewards (i.e. And Your Reward Is Clothes) are okay, they essentially replace feelies for the digital era. The non-cosmetic ones... case-by-case basis, because all those "get extra exp!" thingamabobs a lot of MP-oriented games do are, essentially, abhorrent pandering =)

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occono from Ireland. Since: Apr, 2009
#11: May 24th 2011 at 5:35:11 AM

No, feelies are physical things. Alternate costumes would be unlockable content otherwise. Actual feelies as a preorder gift I'm fine with, but Preorder DLC takes away stuff you would have gotten otherwise :( Not that I expect this to change though.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#12: May 24th 2011 at 5:38:00 AM

I like it because it's a not-especially-harmful way to encourage people to buy the games new as opposed to used. Better than DRM and such. It's protecting their interests while not really harming their customers.

edited 24th May '11 5:38:27 AM by Clarste

ShadowScythe from Australia Since: Dec, 2009
#13: May 24th 2011 at 5:45:15 AM

Yes but it's one thing to give additional content to players who buy it new instead of used and another thing to lock out whole dlc content from players who didn't preorder it.

Personally I'm against preorder dlc- preorder dlc was part of the reason I preordered DA 2 and I massively regretted that purchase. If you want to avoid used sales then just make the content available for new owners- but don't make it unavailable unless you preordered the game without the opportunity to see if it was any good based on reviews and community responses.

occono from Ireland. Since: Apr, 2009
#14: May 24th 2011 at 5:59:36 AM

I think it's specifically to drive up preorders, isn't it? Otherwise they could just put a code in each copy. Although I guess launch sales are important.....do pre-orders tell publishers how much stock they need to produce, or such?

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#15: May 24th 2011 at 6:01:11 AM

I know Gamestop doesn't ship new games to stores without pre-orders. So I'd imagine they're very important for determining how much stock to buy.

RocketDude Face Time from AZ, United States Since: May, 2009
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#16: May 24th 2011 at 5:06:30 PM

I think DiRT 3 has the right idea: Pre-ordering on Steam gives you a free copy of the second game.

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deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24 Since: Jan, 2001
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#17: May 24th 2011 at 5:09:43 PM

Same as all DLC: Shit.

Seamus Another Perfect Day from the Quantum Savanna Since: Jul, 2009
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#18: May 24th 2011 at 5:09:45 PM

This really bugs me, especially when the pre-order DLC is already on the disc, like in Mortal Kombat.

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Talby Since: Jun, 2009
#19: May 24th 2011 at 5:36:14 PM

Not a fan, or of DLC in general. Single player games should not be pay-as-you-play, especially when the shelf price is a ripoff anyway.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#20: May 24th 2011 at 8:23:03 PM

They also punish you for being a smart customer who waits before buying.

Also if they only are made from Gamestop, or whatever, it reeks of Monopoly "Hey want the cool thing? Better buy it here and not anywhere else!"

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#21: May 24th 2011 at 8:41:11 PM

Depends on the stuff. For example: Fallout New Vegas has four seperate preorder sets that was dependant on where you preorder. The catch is, though they each gave you a unique weapon and armor and a few pick me ups it was all irrelevant after your first hour or so of play due to the stuff getting outclassed.

Even so, I still wish they would release preorder bonuses alongside some ultimate edition or something. It ain't right that I permanently miss out on an item because I didn't get the game within a certain timeframe.

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Tyyrlym Jerk from Normandy SR-2 Since: Mar, 2011
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#22: May 24th 2011 at 8:55:40 PM

I dislike it. There are precious few games that I have sufficient faith in to actually pre-order. I want to see reviews and actual gameplay before I lay out money on something. Preorder DLC exists to encourage the opposite, to lay out money for an unproven game and secure some profit even if the game winds up utterly blowing.

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occono from Ireland. Since: Apr, 2009
#23: May 25th 2011 at 6:34:46 AM

[up][up] I heard the Canteen was pretty useful.

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Plumbum The Plum and Only from Chichester, United Kingdom Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#24: May 25th 2011 at 6:40:20 AM

I don't mind little preorder DLC if it's done the Mass Effect 2 way (OK, so it's buy new vs. used, but still.) where you get a little bonus, it's like a little 'thank you' from the developers.

I don't really care about the MK example, it's klassic costumes and they all look crap.

I do mind if they start going to EA Online Pass route, i.e. locking out all of the online features to people who don't buy new.

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Mammalsauce Since: Mar, 2010
#25: May 25th 2011 at 6:51:31 AM

ALL DLC, pre-order or not, is either:

1) if an essential part of the game, something that should have been included in the initial purchase

2) if it isn't essential, then it doesn't add anything to the game other than filler and not worth the money

Preorder DLC also has a nasty habit of being some overpowered piece of equipment that is just lying around in your inventory when you start the game, rather than meaningful new content. See: FNV, ME 2, Divinity 2.

I don't have a problem with free DLC though, but I liked it better when they called it 'patches'.

[up][up] I heard the Canteen was pretty useful.
Incredibly poorly made. It had a little text box pop up every few minutes telling you you took a sip. It's not manually filed and used, and the text box pops up event during the ending.

edited 25th May '11 6:54:06 AM by Mammalsauce


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