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Iranian Power Struggle Gone Insane:

 1 Nick The Swing, Tue, 17th May '11 7:12:46 PM from Ya really wanna know? Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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Power struggles usually result in one side bad talking the other with all sorts of insults and such. But never have I seen such an utterly hilarious power struggle in my life.

Somehow, these two have managed to turn a dangerous political situation into one giant joke.

Oh Iran.

I think both Ahmadinejad and Khamenei both believe their own propaganda now, and that is just...well, there is no other outcome for this than one of three things:

1) Democratic Revolution

2) a new dictatorship

3) Ahmadinejad summons Satan to kill Khamenei.
 2 Barkey, Tue, 17th May '11 7:19:49 PM from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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I'm impressed by this whole circus, it makes me feel sympathetic for Mahmoud.

I hope he summons Satan.
The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
 3 Karkadinn, Tue, 17th May '11 7:20:39 PM from New Orleans, Louisiana
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And yet we are forced to take people like this seriously on a global political playing field.

This saddens me.
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
 4 Nick The Swing, Tue, 17th May '11 7:30:09 PM from Ya really wanna know? Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
 5 Blue Ninja 0, Tue, 17th May '11 7:42:41 PM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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 6 De Marquis, Tue, 17th May '11 8:47:09 PM from Hell, USA Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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Iran appears to be rushing headlong into the 17th century. Unfortunately, for the A-Man's friends and supporters, this is probably quite serious. There is nothing on Earth quite so dangerous as a bureau of superstitious fanatics...
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 7 Major Tom, Tue, 17th May '11 8:50:20 PM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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Look on the bright side, the people who say "make love not war" and cut the military budget are gonna get fucked over again!
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[up][up][up][up] Pity there aren't more Zoroastrian / Persian mythical figures as summons. I'd take Ishtar over Shiva any day!

 9 Karkadinn, Tue, 17th May '11 8:52:20 PM from New Orleans, Louisiana
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Um, what? Tom, I'm not seeing how your comment relates to the issue at all.
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
 10 Major Tom, Tue, 17th May '11 9:04:05 PM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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^ When you get situations like Iran is in, it never ends peacefully.
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[up] They could collapse by themselves, the regime nearly fall during Green Revolution.

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Hold on, Tom, are you telling us that the tensions between Khamenei and Ahmadinejad can't be solved with an epic makeout session?
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 13 Drunk Girlfriend, Tue, 17th May '11 9:43:04 PM from Castle Geekhaven
[up] Of course not. It has to be solved with an epic Starcraft session. (Which means they'll lose to S. Korea, but whatever.)
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Oh yay; best possible thing for Iran at this point is for the conservative bloc keeping the protesters down to eat itself.

Not to mention if the average Iranian is sane, Ahmadinejad probably has more credibility at this point, which is good. Ahmy is not a nice guy but he's at least a step up from the Ayatollahs.
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 15 Barkey, Tue, 17th May '11 10:55:24 PM from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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^

Exactly, Mahmoud is a douche, but at least he still has both feet firmly planted in reality. The Ayatollah and his cronies, however, are just as evil and certifiably insane, and I want the secular sane dude to be the one controlling the economy of force in a country over a bunch of unpredictable nutjobs any day.
The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
victorinox243
With Iraq out of the way, Iran is in a position to assert influence that has not been seen since it was known as "Persia".

You've seen those Wikileaks, all the other countries in the region are FREAKED out about what Iran may do.

We need to have Nixon go to China again and bring Iran to international recognition, even if it is a naughty country, like China. There is already a burgeoning democratic-friendly generation getting more influential as we have seen during the past several years.

An armed struggle with Iran would be stupid beyond imagination because Iran would probably not hesitate to use nuclear weapons unlike the game of chicken the US and USSR played for 50 years.

 17 FF Shinra, Tue, 17th May '11 11:14:43 PM from Ivalice, apparently Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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Uh...Nixon? You be about fifteen years too late.

And Iran doesn't have nukes. Some assert they want them, they assert its just friendly, but either way, they don't have them.
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> With Iraq out of the way, Iran is in a position to assert influence that has not been seen since it was known as "Persia".

[up][up]I dont think so

Actually collapse of Saddam enhance the status of ayatollah on Najaf and Karballah ( and reducing Qom status, which traditionally lower than Najaf and Karbala ) . Green Revolution also severely weakening the regime reputation among its own people, among shiite, and on Middle East. beside its economy is in shambles.

Current Iran is far less powerful than Sassanid or Achaemenid predecessor.

edited 17th May '11 11:19:08 PM by PhilippeO

 19 Kinkajou, Tue, 17th May '11 11:17:15 PM from you're not your
We Do Not Sow
So, Dinner Jacket and company are loony?

Nothing new.
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victorinox243
If it's not nukes, it will be something else.

A country in shambles is the best time for the leadership to attempt something bold. When you're at the bottom, there's no where to go but up.

edited 17th May '11 11:21:33 PM by victorinox243

[up] Iran Elite have quite comfortable life. They clearly far away from the bottom. i dont think they want to risk that. some minority might be crazy, but most don't (especially the rich bazaari class).

Prince of Dorne
[up][up][up]Err no, actually the Supreme Leader guy is insane and goes against Armoured Dinner Jacket.

Not that Khamenei really believes the accusations himself, most likely. Let's not just dismiss the Iranian elite as primitive. They simply throw the law books at each another, it just so happens that the law books contain different things than here.

I've read the real split between A. and Khameinei is ideological: The former is apaprently a Shi'ite mystic and claims one does not need the clerics to communicate with God, and the latter... well, IS a cleric. Also the guy who A. wants as successor, who is also... uh is son-in-law or father of his son-in-law or something? He said Iran should return more to his pre-islamic, Persian roots. Of course the ayatollahs just love that. Hence the feud.
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Iran is one of the few Arabic petrostates that doesn't share its wealth with the lower classes, and if lower class Iranians woke up to how badly they're being screwed compared to their neighbors, things could change a lot.

Eric,

Prince of Dorne
Iran is neither Arabic nor a "petrostate" per se. It has oil, but not enough to keep the entire citizenry wealthy like Qatar, the UAE or Oman do. And the Iranians already tried a revolt not too long ago, as you may recall. Didn't turn out so well.
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 25 pagad, Wed, 18th May '11 11:28:46 AM from perfidious Albion Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Oh good grief. How the Iranian leadership expects the international community to take them seriously when they come out with shit like this beggars belief.

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