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Does a such thing as a Mongoloid, Caucasoid, or Negroid skull exist?:

 101 fourtwenty, Wed, 18th May '11 7:44:13 AM from The Ghetto
Lolicon Black National
I'm also finding it kind of amusing in a way that the OP is a fan of Eastern culture (especially Japan) as well as European and is surprised that people on Stormfront are more accepting of that combo than she expected. Uh she does know who the Axis powers were during World War II, right?...

It's surprising to see stormfront and WN discussing anime, then to see threads like this: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t490269/

EDIT:

HA! "Exotic asians" indeed. More like slutty asians — exotic is just a nice way of putting it. My personal theory is that the only reason so many white men view asian girls as desirable is because of the way that the asian porn industry has portrayed them. They'll do anything with anyone (and I mean ANYTHING) and act like they love every second of it. As it is, women in general tend to dislike other women that they think are slutty, so it only makes sense that white girls would have a problem with an entire CULTURE of slutty women.

Second, I have to echo War Maiden's sentiment... they have a seriously strange sense of fashion. And on top of that, a lot of them, even some of the older ones, dress like middle school girls. It's like they TRY to attract pedophiles, which as far as I'm concerned, is just as perverse as the pedophiles themselves. Oh! And if they aren't dressed according to their own oddball culture, they dress like blacks. A lot of them seem to have a bit of an obsession with hip hop culture. Personally I could care less what they do... better to see an asian girl dressed like a black than a white girl... but I still have a strong distaste for black culture, so maybe it's just a little irritating for me to see.

And last but definitely not least for me.... they love to stare at my husband. UGH that burns me up. Granted, my husband is a good looking guy... blond hair, green eyes, strong facial features... but when I see a little asian girl start to preen and primp herself as soon as we walk in the door, the claws come out. Apparently they find blonds with light eyes very exotic or something... I've even had a couple try to subtly flirt with him right in front of me. Of course it doesn't help that I'm a jealous natured woman anyway, but something about asian attention directed at my man pushes my buttons. Of course I have nothing to worry about... my husband is as faithful as they come, and would never give a second glance to any nonwhite.... but that's not the point. The point is, those little (insert long string of curse words) try in the first place. Or, if they don't try, they stare. What is it with nonwhites having such ridiculous staring problems??

So yeah. I hate Asian girls. And now you know why.

Of course I extremely dislike their fascination with western men, but, that's not what bugs me the most. I wouldn't say I utterly hate them, but they're certainly annoying as hell. Ugh, it's the whole "Ahhh kaawaaiii desu ne?!" "Ah! Sou ka?" "Hai, hai, sou desu yo!" SHUT UP.

This topic always upsets me because for whatever reason, the type of white man I'm attracted to always goes for Asian women.

I think it's something along these lines: computer programmers —> video games —-> anime —-> Asian girls. Voila.

It's usually the scientific, intelligent nerdy guys who have yellow fever.

The notion that Asian women tend to take our white men is only half-true. They don't go for all white men, just certain ones. Of course, whether or not you experience this depends on where you live, and if there are a large number of East Asians present.

East Asians and Europeans living together as groups is a modern experiment because it's never happened before in nature. Therefore, we don't know what the exact outcome will be. Maybe hybridization will result, but I tend to see most of our valuable genes flowing to the Asian side, since their features are dominant. Not good for us.

Then again I usually tell myself that I'm not really competing with them over those white men, because the white man I want wouldn't date non-whites anyway. So he's out there, waiting, somewhere.

I really hate the idea of any white man wanting one...mostly filipinos but all Asians. They use them to get to our country, they use their money while joining all the filipinio community groups etc., they use our American system to get minority loans to start yet another nail salon with those massage chairs and the sespool foot bath. They go to the grocery store stop in the MIDDLE of the isle talk tagalog and don't move their stupid a$$ and have a look of superiority on their face when you tell them to get packing out of your way. They take ALL the jobs on the military bases, and they buy designer items at discount then sell them on ebay for profit....(that is why you see real Coach bags selling for a little less than normal) - don't get me started with nepotism I will go on for days. Whenever you see one that holds a job as a purchaser in a department store for womens clothing...they buy the UGLIEST clothes.
I know so many young guys who are complete Japanophiles, who after watching too much anime porn say they only want to date Asian girls. I don't blame the Asian girls for this, I blame these men for buying into the white guilt trip. They truly believe that European culture either does not exist, or is inherently evil, so they obsess over another race's culture to the point of total immersion... in other words, to the point where they destroy their genes by mixing with a race whose cultural soul is completely different from ours. Pretty sad that they can hate themselves that much.
I am noticing more and more nerdy losers having an obsession with Japan and all things Japanese. I know a few people who talk about Japan and Asian culture non-stop. It is really sad when people totally turn their backs on their heritage for a culture and a people which will never fully accept them. They say, 'Oh I went to Japan and it was fantastic blah blah, they were so nice to us'. No they laugh at you silly white boy/girl. You can never be Japanese.

A lot of the white men that goes for them are in fact not actually white men, just very aryan looking jews. Jewish guys and asian chicks just goes hand in hand.

I don't know any white girl whose jealous of an Asian. I do agree that white men who go after Asian girls are generally pedophiles, or at least kind of odd in some way. Nevertheless, they also have an Internet rumor going around that white guys are dropping white girls and going for Asian girls in great numbers! Lol, not happening.[[/quoteblock]] hahahaha they mad

edited 18th May '11 9:00:30 AM by fourtwenty

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 102 Jordan, Wed, 18th May '11 8:07:27 AM from Westeros
Azor Ahai
Well, they seem to hate Asians less than other races. It's kind of strange that some of that is normal conversation- you just have to filter through the massive amount of racism. Also, they have a "good grasp" of the Me Love You Long Time trope.

edited 18th May '11 8:08:06 AM by Jordan

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 103 MRDA 1981, Wed, 18th May '11 8:14:43 AM from Hell (London), UK.
Tyrannicidal Maniac
More StormFail...

edited 18th May '11 8:14:57 AM by MRDA1981

 104 annebeeche, Wed, 18th May '11 8:17:20 AM from by the long tidal river
watching down on us
Stormfront is blocked on my school network for "hate & discrimination". :D
Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
 105 Drunk Girlfriend, Wed, 18th May '11 8:33:12 AM from Castle Geekhaven
[up] Gee, I wonder why.
"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
 106 fourtwenty, Wed, 18th May '11 8:57:56 AM from The Ghetto
Lolicon Black National
[up]WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE WE ARE NOT SUPREMACISTS WE ARE NATIONALISTS!! WE DONT HATE BLACK PEOPLE WE LOVE WHITE PEOPLE! WE ARE FOR WHITE SELFLOVE AND WHITE PRIDE

/stormfront poster.
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 107 Carciofus, Wed, 18th May '11 8:58:35 AM from Alpha Tucanae I
Is that cake frosting?
Wow. That site makes Conservapedia look like the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.

edited 18th May '11 8:58:42 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

 108 fourtwenty, Wed, 18th May '11 9:12:02 AM from The Ghetto
Lolicon Black National
that site (Stormfront) intentionally cuts down on some of the stuff. you have to have a mod approve your posts for example [lol]

Now, if you want some really shitty forums try "chimpout" or "niggermania" as forums. Oh, and the "White Aryan Resistance" site.
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 109 annebeeche, Wed, 18th May '11 9:19:57 AM from by the long tidal river
watching down on us
"Is it okay to be friends with Polish people?"

</typical thread on Skadi forum>
Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
 110 Carciofus, Wed, 18th May '11 9:20:08 AM from Alpha Tucanae I
Is that cake frosting?
Spock is not amused.

I wanted to post this image directly, but it seems that I cannot do so without cropping it way too much. Oh well.

EDIT: so, I had a look at the Stormfront forum. Right now, there are people who are discussing whether forced sterilization for "mixed race people" is a good idea, and they are arguing that it is not because genital mutilation is — and I quote — "too Jewish".

Yeah, I am now choosing to believe that that forum is a practical joke and that most participants are just engaging in some elaborate trolling game. Dunno if it is true, but believing this will certainly help me sleep better tonight.

edited 18th May '11 9:32:10 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

 111 fourtwenty, Wed, 18th May '11 9:31:22 AM from The Ghetto
Lolicon Black National
Thread on Albanians http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t796722/

EDIT:

Icehouse, since you like Orientals and the purpose of the exercise is to "get yer rocks off" why don't you take advantage of Oriental ingenuity and buy one of those inflatable latex geisha girls? I've heard from social commentary that the inflatables have become quite sophisticated. Realistic to the point that their use by Japanese men has become worrisome to some Japanese demographers. Just think, instead of wasting all of that time and money chasing real, high maintenance Oriental chicks you could just open the closet and get out 'Tamiko' and the bicycle pump. Voila, physical relief and every urge satisfied. The ultimate impersonal, recreational sexual experience.

edited 18th May '11 9:31:59 AM by fourtwenty

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Orbs
[up] That last one abbreviates as WAR. Are you sure it is serious?
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 113 MRDA 1981, Wed, 18th May '11 9:57:43 AM from Hell (London), UK.
Tyrannicidal Maniac
"there are people who are discussing whether forced sterilization for "mixed race people" is a good idea, and they are arguing that it is not because genital mutilation is — and I quote — "too Jewish"."

It's always a LO Locaust for the casual observer, whenever someone says the J-word on sites like that.

I know I laughed.

edited 18th May '11 9:58:20 AM by MRDA1981

 114 Carciofus, Wed, 18th May '11 10:07:41 AM from Alpha Tucanae I
Is that cake frosting?
Out of curiosity: since stupidity seems to be more or less uniformly distributed in all ethnic groups, I guess that there must exist counterparts of "white supremacists" for all main ethnicities. I have never been in contact with any of them, though...

Does anyone know of any such group? And can we get all of them to fight each other in some sort of pointless, possibly humiliating blood tournament to decide which is the "superior race", while the rest of the world points and laughs at them?

edited 18th May '11 10:09:45 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

 115 Myrmidon, Wed, 18th May '11 10:27:53 AM from In Antartica
The Ant King
I have a friend who trolls Stormfront. I'll have to ask her about it some time.
Kill all math nerds
 116 Madass Alex, Wed, 18th May '11 11:02:38 AM from the Middle Ages.
I am vexed!
If there's ever an ethnic war, I'm forming of Five-Token Band team of mercenaries.

We'll charge nothing for our services and see who hires us.
 117 fourtwenty, Wed, 18th May '11 1:55:58 PM from The Ghetto
Lolicon Black National
@Carciofus

Black Supremacists (Arguably the New Black Panther Party is that), Japanese Nationalists, Chinese Nationalists, Hindunationalists, sectarian shit within hindunationalist groups (Shivites vs Vishnu worshippers). I've wanted in the past to get the assatashakur forum to invade stormfront. Then I'd back up the assatashakur people and nuke stormfront with......questionable material

@Madasa Alex Go join the Republic of New Afrika, we're carving out own state out of the US south! And for bonus, we'll keep you in the front lines so you won't have to see us ethnically cleanse Atlanta and Tuskegee of white people tongue

edited 18th May '11 1:57:55 PM by fourtwenty

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Over 10,000 dead.:<
Unless I misread, the OP considers skull shape and intelligence to be linked.
You definitely misread. I didn't say anything even remotely like that.

Where on earth did that come from?

If there's anything I've consistently said, even, is that I'm an adamant Social Contructionist, Anti-Evolutionary Psychologist, and Anti-Biological determinist who used to argue with such people years ago. And at worst, lost quite heavily because I didn't have the scientific understanding to defeat their claims that race and intelligence are linked. But a bit of downtrodden doubt about nature and nurture does NOT equal giving and believing I was certainly wrong, I still constantly profess a Social Constructionist belief in the differences between humans. If admitting the controversy and lack of certainty a little more often.

That you would get something from the OP, of which there wasn't an inkling there, and take this as my position, is a massive misunderstanding of my continuous, played out stance on this subject matter. Frequently going up against people who merely say that gender roles are biologically hardwired, and then backing down yet again when someone tells me I'm scientifically ignorant for thinking such and taking a Social Constructionist stance.

The OP did nothing other than ask the question, if there are racial differences in skull shape, or whether the popular assertion that is it historical phrenology and no such thing exists, is true. Because many, many people believe that is no such thing as skull shape difference between races, and terms like "Mongoloid", "Caucasoid", and "Negroid" are absolutely inaccurate, outdated ways to even remotely describe the shape of the face, and no major skull shape difference, between, say Eastern Asians and Western Europeans, exists.

Since it appears to be very controversial, many people still using terms like "Caucasoid" or "Caucasian skull", and others saying it was outdated stupidity that doesn't exist, I was curious as to what people here though on here. It doesn't appear to be something no major discussion material to me, like you claimed when I asked if maybe we should split the topic, as it appears that it is something controversial and not agreed upon all that much at all.

If I wanted to invoke the race and intelligence controversy, which I have admittedly read much about just like the entire field of evolutionary psychology, I would have done just that and not minced words. If you want to know my personal interpretation of the race and intelligence controversy, I don't think different races or sexes have any biological differences in learning, but instead disparities are caused by social differences. You see more men than women in fields of math and science because society has largely pushed men more towards this and men more away from this, both directly and indirectly. And you see more blacks in the fields of sports and more Asians in the fields math and science and other academia because Asian civilization, which has never been under the control of Europeans aside from a few Southeast Asian ethnicities/nationalities, has pushed their children very strongly toward learning, while dark skinned Americans of African descent, typically called "blacks", have leftovers from racism of being treated as physically strong beasts of burden to tend to crops and do other manual labor. This stereotype carried over into post-slavery days, and therefor blacks, while having a hard time getting into sports, had an even harder time getting into academia. It was hard for the lower class to get into academia in general, but especially hard for blacks. Leading largely to the educational differences and discrimination you see today.

edited 18th May '11 6:13:08 PM by Ukonkivi

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 119 Bobby G, Wed, 18th May '11 6:14:37 PM from the Silvery Tay
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It was the reference to "talking about skull shapes and the race and intelligence controversy" that made me think that.

The implication, as I read it, being that the two are somehow linked.

Sorry bro, you were the one who brought it up.

But yeah, seemingly the skulls thing more controversial than I realised.
In Riastrad
Differences between skulls based on heritage do exist, definitely, no arguing against it.

Ideas that that means anything are outdated BS.

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I hate to take a stance in a topic I wanted to remain neutral on.

But are you sure? The person in my avatar is ind . I suppose someone could say that Björk has a rather Mongoloid shaped skull, as to do many other Europeans. And Ken Hirai has a Caucasoid shaped skull, as do many other East Asians. Or that Northern Europeans tend to have a "more Mongoloid" skull than Southern Europeans, or that Ainu tend to have "more Caucasoid" skulls than most Han Chinese. But would that really be a good term for the stereotypical features that many Ainu have that make them look not any different from any dark haired European like a "black Irish". Which, for whatever reason, many do, despite not having any blatant or apparently European history other than Russia. (My own personal hypothesis, whether or not this "Mongoloid" thing exists or not, is that since all of us are mutants of black African Haplogroups from mitochondrial Eve, ect., many non-black Haplogroups in Africa are not so dissimilar. And probably some variants of Haplogroup D and N, can make a person come out looking as either "Caucasoid" or "Mongoloid" to many people. As Haplogroup D is a mutation not far removed from a Haplogroup found in black Africans, found in many individuals that look either "Occidental" or "Oriental", and Haplogroup N being at least fairly further removed from a mutation from a Haplogroup found heavily in black Africans, and seems to be a purely extreme northern mutation found in individuals Eastern and Western and look like the stereotype of either, most frequently around the border of East and West in the north and less so further East and further West.).

It might just be a slight correlation of characteristics and population, I've certainly heard that claim. It should probably be just normal that many Europeans, Asians, Africans, and Americans would look the same or at least similar.

To those who do believe in the skull types between "races", I've read from many sources that Northern Europeans are overall more "Mongoloid" than southern ones. And also that the Caucasoid skull is actually more similar to the Negroid skull than the Mongoloid skull. Meaning that Northern Europeans would typically have a skull more similar to "Mongoloids", while Southern Europeans would have a skull more similar to a "Negroid" skull. Do you agree or disagree and why?

I don't really have a strong opinion either way and I don't think either of these ideas promote something particularly racist whichever is true. I kind of get the feeling people think that Caucasoid skulls, particularly Southern ones, are more "Negroid"(those that believe in the concept), because of the supposed differences in "striking" facial features between Easterners and Westerners, but shared with "blacks". And also because Europe is closer to Africa than Eastern Asia.

edited 18th May '11 6:56:29 PM by Ukonkivi

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 122 Bobby G, Wed, 18th May '11 6:50:03 PM from the Silvery Tay
vigilantly taxonomish
It seems plausible to me that you'd see similarities between people who aren't at all closely related, because the differences between races are slight enough and individual variation is great enough that that must happen from time to time. Besides, it's not like the races are completely clear-cut distinct from one another. We're all human. There are probably plenty of white Europeans with some Mongolian or Arab or whatever in their family tree.

Regardless, I strongly recommend you drop the use of terms like "Caucasoid", "Negroid" and "Mongoloid". They are not neutral terms and they make you sound like a racist.
Over 10,000 dead.:<
Regardless, I strongly recommend you drop the use of terms like "Caucasoid", "Negroid" and "Mongoloid". They are not neutral terms and they make you sound like a racist.
And it's exactly the curiousity that led me to making this topic. So many people think they're racist, while so many people think they're accurate, it seems like.

I know I've been called a politically correct weeaboo and ignorant for claiming they are no good. It seems like whichever I agree with, an equal amount of people seem to think I'm ignorant and delusional. Not that terms like "Asian" and "White" and "Black" are much better, and have just become another way of saying the darn same thing, unfortunately.

I typically avoid using such terms, or rather, any racial terms at all since I don't like any of them. Though for the purposes of this topic, I have. About "looking racist", eh, I guess this is a good time to "stop caring what others think" and not care too much if I might look racist. I mean, a lot of things make one look racist, it's hardly even worth avoiding at this point in the world. No, not everything is racist, but almost everything looks racist to a great many people. Being interested in Japanese culture or Korean culture or other Asian culture is racist to the great majority of people.

You yourself seemed to imply that is wasn't about what looked racist or whatever, but what was actually not racist and being a good person. Sadly, while saying terms like Mongoloid, Caucasoid, and Negroid might look racist to a select few, doing something like not liking [insert beloved hip-hop artist here] or saying you really want to learn the Japanese language comes off as much more racist and socially unacceptable.

It's ironic that you're acting as if I should worry about what things might look like to others, after for much of the topic you've said not to care for the tug-and-pull of the world and just care what is true or. It's much easier to utter a word such as "Mongoloid" than it is to utter "Japanese is a pretty language". I'd definitely be more comfortable saying the former in public.

So really, who cares if it looks racist? This is a completely contraditory message to the general message you've been giving me in this thread. And makes me very suspicious that I have been correct the whole time. I either care what others think, or I don't. There are much, MUCH bigger fish to fry and worries than over little terms like "Caucasoid". Honestly, only a tiny amount of people have a problem with doing things like this than they do learning Japanese. A lot of things bother me, but this is serious small-fry, for the large part. I can hardly be bothered with something this small when I'm practically a pox on the whole world for wanting to go back to Japan. I have have experienced this fact quite personally.

edited 18th May '11 7:12:09 PM by Ukonkivi

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 124 Bobby G, Wed, 18th May '11 7:05:02 PM from the Silvery Tay
vigilantly taxonomish
About "looking racist", eh, I guess this is a good time to "stop caring what others think" and not care too much if I might look racist. I mean, a lot of things make one look racist, it's hardly even worth avoiding at this point in the world.

...Well done, you're learning. smile

Just be careful it doesn't impede communication, is all I'd recommend. Words carry meanings, and not always only their literal ones.

You yourself seemed to imply that is wasn't about what looked racist or whatever, but what was actually not racist and being a good person.

Sounds good to me.

Sadly, while saying terms like Mongoloid, Caucasoid, and Negroid might look racist to a select few, doing something like not liking [insert beloved hip-hop artist here] or saying you really want to learn the Japanese languages comes off as much more racist and socially unacceptable.

In practice, I think this is rarely the case. It sounds like you've been hanging out with some people with very unusual ideas about race, if that's the impression you're getting.

edited 18th May '11 7:07:44 PM by BobbyG

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Nooooo... I definitely don't think they're unusual. I wouldn't be having this thread if I thought they were weirdos.

There's definitely a lot more stigma and shame to liking something from Asian culture if you're a Westerner than using terms like "Mongoloid", "Caucasoid" and "Negroid". Of course, there is overlap, but it's a pretty fragile and precious commodity for me.

The typical reaction to talking about those terms is something like "yeah, I agree" or "eh, I think those labels are kinda outdated and maybe a little bit racist. They reminds me of scientific racism". If you say "hey, you know I think Japanese is a really pretty language and I wouldn't mind traveling there someday" or "I really like Asian culture, Korea is so fascinating", you have to be prepared for the hundreds of thousands of people whom wish you to die painfully. I would say even several million.

This isn't a few lone idiots who everyone hates. Otherwise this wouldn't be bothering me. It is a powerful memetic spread.

edited 18th May '11 7:19:33 PM by Ukonkivi

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