Duplicate article: Cosmic Chess Game

The article for Cosmic Chess Game is basically identical to Divine Chessboard. It has 5 wicks and 25 inbound, while Divine Chessboard has 28 wicks and 3 inbound.

I'm inclined to just say merge the examples and use Cosmic Chess Game as a redirect.

Divine Chessboard's description is longer, murkier, and far too much Example As Thesis. Cosmic Chess Game's is short clear and to the point. It also has more inbounds — that means that it's getting more use off the wiki. We can change wicks. We can't change inbounds. It's also the older page — by about six months. The duplication should have been caught in Divine Chessboard's YKTTW.

I'd prefer to merge the examples under Cosmic Chess Game and make Divine Chessboard the redirect.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

The fox has a point. Agree.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

I agree with merging the examples under Cosmic Chess Game, but I do like the images that Divine Chessboard has, so I certainly think we should move those.

On a somewhat related note, is there actually Wiki policy about using "Alice and Bob" (such as in Divine Chessboard) in trope descriptions? I get the feeling that it is discouraged, but I am not sure if that is just my personal bias speaking or if there is actually some kind of protocol here about that.

edited 12th May '11 11:03:21 AM by LouieW

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Merge 'em. I wasn't aware of any bias against "Alice and Bob".

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

"Alice and Bob" writeups tend to be Example as a Thesis, and that page seems to be saying we should avoid those.

Oh, yeah, right. See, I don't keep up with everything, despite appearances.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Using Alice and Bob isn't inherently bad. The problem arises when the whole definition (or the majority of the definition) is an example, rather than a definition, and Alice and Bob makes it very easy to slip into that.

And I agree that the image on Divine Chessboard is excellent and should be kept.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

I assure you all that if I had known about Divine Chessboard I wouldn't have made Cosmic Chess Game. But it wasn't even mentioned by anyone commenting on the YKTTW.

No, zarpaulus Yours came first. Divine Chessboard is the duplicate. It was only made in April of this year. The possibility that it might be a duplicate of Cosmic Chess Game was mentioned in the very first comment, but never followed up on.

edited 12th May '11 2:56:10 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Oh, good.

Here's the YKTTW for it: [1] Apparently nobody located the pre-existing article during the discussion.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

If anything it's my fault for not finding Cosmic Chess Game before launching Divine Chessboard, now all that effort seems wasted.

Anyway. Move examples to Cosmic Chess Game and change the wicks I suppose?

edited 13th May '11 8:59:56 AM by Earnest

Madrugada,

Alright, I think that makes sense. I might just have had some bad experiences with Alice and Bob trope descriptions because many of the ones I have seen seemed to have the problem that joeyjojojuniorshabadoo mentioned (or just seem unclear to me). That being said, I do not really have any specific tropes in mind when I say that and I may make topics about them if I do find some.

Earnest,

Yeah, I think that is where we are going with this. Unless there are any objections to doing that, I think you can go ahead and move them.

edited 13th May '11 9:09:39 AM by LouieW

"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d

Not entirely wasted, Earnest. You gathered a bunch of new examples. That's worth a good bit.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

And extra wicks and inbounds that will be kept even with a redirect.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.

Thanks y'all.

I went ahead and merged the examples, moved the Image Links page, and added a redirect in Divine Chessboard. All that's left are the individual wicks for Divine Chessboard if anyone wants to switch those.