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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#51: May 27th 2011 at 1:45:59 PM

@Raso: That's the reason I included the page where Zanganken Ni-no-Tachi is used on Negi in that previous post of mine; it bypasses his shields entirely, but fails to actually harm his body due to his Made of Air Defense Mechanism Superpower.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#52: May 27th 2011 at 2:40:09 PM

I don't think you can call it a logical weakness based on the information we have now. It's not that it works better it's that it works at all.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#53: May 27th 2011 at 3:15:08 PM

It still works better than other kinds of attacks, since it does not suffer the same handicap of having to expend a great deal of attack power in order to punch through Deflector Shields before reaching the intended target. To use Kagetarou as an example, he had to attack with a dozen or so shadow tentacles just so that one could pierce through Negi's multi-layered barrier defense and score a hit on him.

edited 27th May '11 3:15:16 PM by MarqFJA

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#54: May 27th 2011 at 3:19:53 PM

Yes, and Rakan going into melee on Negi and punching him also worked better than other attacks because it was purely physical and point blank, thus exploiting some of the properties of magical barriers. What's your point? Whatever, my opinion has been made and the argument has been had already. Twice.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#55: May 27th 2011 at 3:24:37 PM

Using Rakan as an example is compromised by his Story-Breaker Power.

And there's still the matter of clarifying Logical Weakness' description to avoid such ambiguity in the future.

edited 27th May '11 3:26:07 PM by MarqFJA

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#56: May 27th 2011 at 6:09:20 PM

I added the phrase "weakness is a direct result of their superpowers" during my edit; if that's acceptable as trope canon, it inherently requires that if they didn't have their superpowers at all, they wouldn't have that particular vulnerability.

So, Supes's Kryptonite Factor would be technically an example on the grounds that kryptonite radiation is completely harmless (er, mostly harmless) to everyday humans.

A character whose superpower makes them Nigh-Invulnerable save for a lethal Achilles' Heel, is not an example if said Achilles' Heel would be at least equally-lethal against normals.

edited 27th May '11 6:11:39 PM by Stratadrake

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#57: Oct 4th 2011 at 4:29:46 PM

Issue appears to be resolved. I think. Calling for a lock.

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