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British Politics Thread:

 12451 Achaemenid, Wed, 19th Mar '14 6:37:13 AM from my desk. Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Tik, tok, feed the Крок.
Beer duty cut 1p/pint, duty on Scotch frozen.

AWW YEAH!
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Gott mit uns!
 12452 Greenmantle, Wed, 19th Mar '14 6:49:52 AM from Greater Wessex Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
 12453 Caissas Death Angel, Wed, 19th Mar '14 1:02:12 PM from Dumfries, SW Scotland Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
House Lewis: Sanity is Relative
The Conservatives outline their plans for many different areas in Britain - click your area to find out what they'll do for you!
My name is Addy. Please call me that instead of my username.
 12454 Septimus Heap, Wed, 19th Mar '14 1:05:43 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
I did try out a place in Scotland ...

That's very mature.

 12456 Caissas Death Angel, Wed, 19th Mar '14 1:20:02 PM from Dumfries, SW Scotland Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
House Lewis: Sanity is Relative
And nonetheless accurate.
My name is Addy. Please call me that instead of my username.
 12457 Greenmantle, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:00:15 PM from Greater Wessex Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Making Plans
Hasn't Portsmouth got it's own Minister?
 12458 Deadbeatloser 22, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:30:49 PM from le Secret♪ Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
This is all Decade's fault.
You know, they could at least have shown how we're going to get fucked over rather than just saying that we are.
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 12459 Silasw, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:33:24 PM from The UNITED Kingdom Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Globalist Bunny
Not particularly funny to be honest, considering that it ignores entire regions (Where did the South East go?), ignores that the Conservatives do have a voter base in much of the south as well as East Anglia, and lumps the entire of London into one big blob. Seriously, London is more than just The City, the poor Londoners are going to be screwed over at least as much as poor people in other areas, perhaps more so considering that the cost of living in London isn't going to be reigned in any time soon.

It could be good if it was organised by social group rather than geography, well if it had slightly better humour than just "fuck you [insert region here]".

I'll stick with that flash game (Super Tory Boy) for my lols
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael

"If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
Except for a bit about the new coin, Milliband had absolutely nothing to say about the actual budget proposals and instead resorted to his tired old class warfare rhetoric. That suggests to me that he and by extension labor have nothing to say on the economy. And why should they? They wrecked it, then got consistently proven wrong about it every year since losing power (boy is Balls quiet these days ). Doesn't surprise me. Socialists have no idea how to run an economy. They are only good for creating devision and squandering other peoples money.

 12461 Deadbeatloser 22, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:36:21 PM from le Secret♪ Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
This is all Decade's fault.
Also, I live in a Conservative seat ten miles from Birmingham. They're not unique to the south.
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 12462 Greenmantle, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:37:59 PM from Greater Wessex Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Making Plans
No, and isn't George Osborne's seat in Cheshire?
 12463 Deadbeatloser 22, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:42:15 PM from le Secret♪ Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
This is all Decade's fault.
And before anyone claims it did a voter shift in 2010, it's been one since the 80's.
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 12464 Septimus Heap, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:42:20 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Socialists have no idea how to run an economy. They are only good for creating devision and squandering other peoples money.

Some people will contest that on grounds that Labour is no longer socialist. And I assume that you are referring to British socialists only, yeah?

 12465 Achaemenid, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:42:29 PM from my desk. Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
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They even have a seat in the Borders. First against the wall when the revolution comes.

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Others will contest it on the grounds it's bullshit.

edited 19th Mar '14 2:42:51 PM by Achaemenid

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Gott mit uns!
 12466 Deadbeatloser 22, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:44:36 PM from le Secret♪ Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
This is all Decade's fault.
Socialists have no idea how to run an economy. They are only good for creating devision and squandering other peoples money.

Hmmm...

Politicians have no idea how to run an economy. They are only good for creating devision and squandering other peoples money.

FTFY.
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 12467 Septimus Heap, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:45:36 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Now now, if they were that bad, we'd be probably all dead since long ago.

No I stand by what I said before you started editing it. With the exception of Attlee's administration every post war labor government has been an absolute disaster.

 12469 Iaculus, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:51:46 PM from England
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
Socialists have no idea how to run an economy. They are only good for creating devision and squandering other peoples money.

You do realise it was socialists who got us out of our economic death-spiral at the end of World War II, right? Seriously, if you compare the strategies used to fix Britain after the war and their effects with the ones used after the 2008 credit-crunch, it's downright embarrassing. You're supposed to spend like fuck after the economy goes kaput - government spending is chiefly redistributive, so you're channelling it to poorer people who have a higher marginal propensity to spend (translation - they spend more of their money than they save), which gets economic activity going again and, perversely, means you pay off your debts faster than if you'd cut spending (because more economic activity means more taxes). Instead, we're six years on and our signs of economic recovery are feeble at best, with our growth mostly being pushed by a hideously distorted property market that looks likely to trigger another credit-crunch the moment we lower our interest rates again because suddenly a whole lot of folks can't pay off their dodgy mortgages.

edited 19th Mar '14 2:53:07 PM by Iaculus

Freedom of speech includes the freedom for other people to call you out on your bullshit.
 12470 Silasw, Wed, 19th Mar '14 2:54:29 PM from The UNITED Kingdom Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Globalist Bunny
They wrecked it, ... Socialists have no idea how to run an economy.

First I'm gonna have to point out that Blair and Brown were hardly Socialist economically. If they were than we'd have strait up nationalised the banks in 2008, had massive government backed housebuilding to bring down housing prices and lots of other shiny Socialist things that others can point out.

They wrecked it, then got consistently proven wrong about it every year since losing power (boy is Balls quiet these days ).[

The economy wasn't wrecked due to Socialist policies, it was the very not Socialist policy of deregulating the banking sector that trashed the economy. As for Labour being constantly wrong since losing power, they were right on us ending up in a double dip, they were right on the cuts being damaging to the less well of in society and they were right that we're still lacking a real recovery. Now the Labour alternative has certainly been weak, I admit to that, but I'd hardly say we've been consistently wrong.

edited 19th Mar '14 2:58:44 PM by Silasw

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael

"If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
We? Are you actually one of them?

Oh and my general response is...the 1970s. That is all.

edited 19th Mar '14 2:57:01 PM by BigDannyC

 12472 Silasw, Wed, 19th Mar '14 3:00:41 PM from The UNITED Kingdom Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Globalist Bunny
I'm 20 so you're going to have to give me more than just a date, it's all a bit before my time.

And yes I'm one of them, I carry two Labour party membership cards with em at all times because I'm that much of a party hack. tongue (Actually it's because the old ones are durable while the new ones are flimsy, so I carry my old one as well as my new one).
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael

"If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
 12473 pagad, Wed, 19th Mar '14 3:01:18 PM from perfidious Albion Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Sneering Imperialist
Socialists have no idea how to run an economy.

The Free Marketeers haven't exactly been doing a sterling job.

edited 19th Mar '14 3:01:26 PM by pagad

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 12474 Achaemenid, Wed, 19th Mar '14 3:01:48 PM from my desk. Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Tik, tok, feed the Крок.
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Would this be when we had the lowest unemployment ever?

Besides, the economic crises of the 1970s were caused by the oil crisis in the ME.

Also, if you look at what caused the 2007 crisis, the blame is hardly on socialists - and Brown's stimulus got Britain growing again, before the cuts put us into a double dip recession, effectively pinching off a promising recovery and consigning us to five years of Japan-low growth.

I mean, for 35 years after WWII, Britain posted fairly consistent growth and boasted high employment, low inequality, and decent domestic industrial production. Since we turned the economy over to the free-marketeers, we've had 30 years of anemic, stuttering growth, balooning unemployment, and an industrial collapse. I mean, Thatcher was pro-Austrian economics FFS! We've been run by the economic equivalent of creationism for 30 years.

edited 19th Mar '14 3:04:09 PM by Achaemenid

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Gott mit uns!
 12475 Greenmantle, Wed, 19th Mar '14 3:02:32 PM from Greater Wessex Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Making Plans
@ Danny: That wasn't just Labour's fault — both the Unions and Business had a part to play in that disaster as well. Everyone had the Idiot Ball then. It shouldn't have needed Margaret Thatcher's medicine, but by that point, there were not many other options.

edited 19th Mar '14 3:02:52 PM by Greenmantle

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