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#1: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:40:17 PM

6÷2(1+2) A trick math question I saw on another place.

What do you think the answer is? 1 or 9? Solution is spoilered out below.

Combine parentheses expression first. End result at this step is 6÷2(3).

Multiply. End result at this step is 6÷6.

Then divide and solve. End result of the expression is 1.

Nifty side note: Google will give the other answer because calculators do not follow PEMDAS (Parenthesis, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction) order of operations explicitly.

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#2: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:43:05 PM

...You're supposed to switch the Division and Multiplication order around, you know.

It isn't set in stone. With Multiplication/Division, you go left to right. Same with Addition/Subtraction. The answer is 9.

edited 30th Apr '11 2:43:55 PM by Zersk

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#3: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:44:16 PM

Actually, the parse for multiplication and division is supposed to go left to right unless parenthesized otherwise.

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edited 30th Apr '11 2:44:43 PM by Pykrete

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#4: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:44:38 PM

I think you may of missed a step, do you mean 6÷2 + (1+2)?

edited 30th Apr '11 2:45:03 PM by joeyjojo

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:45:07 PM

Use prefix notation to avoid this worthless controversy. cool

edited 30th Apr '11 2:45:17 PM by Tzetze

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#6: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:45:49 PM

Reverse Polish, bitches.

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#7: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:49:53 PM

I read it as 1 and didn't see the trick. I haven't seen a division sign used in forever though, usually they just use the horizontal line thing. Although I suppose that implies parentheses.

Also: Division is multiplication. It's multiplication by 1/x.

edited 30th Apr '11 2:51:29 PM by Clarste

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#8: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:53:37 PM

As the others have said, the answer actually is nine, at least as I've been taught— the "Multiplication and Division" in PEMDAS are the same step, as are Adding and Subtraction", so you go from left to right. You add what's in the parantheses (1+2=3), then go from left to right again (6/2=3, 3*3=9)

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#10: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:54:54 PM

That answer is irrelevant because no sane person would write math like that.

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#11: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:55:32 PM

The problem is an unclear step, therefore, I'm going to declare the whole operation invalid.

Fortunately it's a meaningless group of numbers, so who cares?

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#12: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:55:37 PM

6÷2*(1+2)

6÷2*(3)

3*3

9

Multiplication and division have the same priority and it goes from left to right.

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#13: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:59:55 PM

The solution set is obviously {1,9}. tongue ...if we assume the question was well-formed in the first place, which it isn't.

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#14: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:03:08 PM

another place.
The image board that must not be named, most likely. (As that is where I saw it :p )

I think you may of missed a step, do you mean 6÷2 + (1+2)?
Omission of the operator indicates multiplication. Just like 2y reads as '2 times y'.

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#15: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:05:42 PM

It's 9, for reasons explained above.

6/(2*(1+2)) would be 1. Google it.

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delta534 from somwhere Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:11:46 PM

Because I feel it needs repeating, the answer is because multiplication and division have the same precedent and are evaluated left to right.

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#17: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:13:09 PM

Oh come on Tze. Stack-tokenizable notation is awesome.

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:13:31 PM

It doesn't bear repeating. It's a useless question. If somebody writes an expression like this, slap them.

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edited 30th Apr '11 3:14:06 PM by Tzetze

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#19: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:17:41 PM

[up] So real men are Haskell programmers? grin

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#21: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:20:18 PM

Real men have access to competent languages that can accomplish basic readable tasks without painstakingly subverting an entire type system.

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edited 30th Apr '11 3:21:52 PM by Pykrete

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#22: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:23:54 PM

I gotta admit, I was taught that it would be 1. Let me outline the working. Using, the slash instead of division-sign.

6/2(1+2)
6/2(3)
6/6
1

Whatever, though. At GCSE level in Britain, you're taught "BODMAS" - Brackets (of?) Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction. Of course, when it comes to the last two, the order doesn't matter.

However, I would be willing to accept nine as the answer.

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#23: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:24:38 PM

All the above is irrelevant when you read the division sign as an addition sign. -_-

edited 30th Apr '11 3:24:47 PM by mailedbypostman

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#24: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:26:07 PM

Nonsense. If we don't have to deal with the real world, we don't have to worry about mapping sequences of symbols to sememes - and so, this stupid question doesn't arise, and I don't get angrier at the universe than I already was. Except that the universe doesn't exist, so I can't get angry at it anyway.

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BlackHumor Unreliable Narrator from Zombie City Since: Jan, 2001
#25: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:27:33 PM

I believe it would be 1 because coefficients have implicit grouping.

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