What trope is this?: Night Nurse

It's a mess. The description, examples, pictures, laconic page, and indexes, indicate at least three different tropes. One is a sexy nurse outfit, another is that nurses are hot (which is covered by Hospital Hottie), and another about someone being sick and being taken care of by someone who isn't medically trained.

And it doesn't have an apparent ykttw, which would explain why the page looks like it was just slapped together (not that no ykttw is always bad, but it has to be done right).

The trope description is very clear that it's the old fashioned sexy nurse outfit.

How? How can the first two lines have nothing to do with that, bury the key comment about the outfit in the middle of the whole description, and that somehow be clear?

The entire latter half of the trope description is about it. Even the first bit works, though it really should say "Alice dresses like a Night Nurse" instead of the current phrasing. Though it might be best to just cut the first two paragraphs. It's not really a well done example as thesis.

edited 28th Apr '11 10:54:18 AM by shimaspawn

Again, is that really the point of this? Where was the ykttw that showed it was the point?

And even if it is, it's still not clearly that meaning in the description.

Furthermore, this is a poor name if it is, as it does not indicate it's just about the costume.

edited 28th Apr '11 11:11:27 AM by DragonQuestZ

Just cut out the first two paragraphs (the confusing Alice-and-Bob stuff that seldom works very well), and problem solved, right?

No. First of all, the third line starts with "Not to be confused with", which is traditionally near the end of descriptions. Second of all, I've gotten conflicting definitions on another thread in image picking. Third of all, the laconic and the indexes imply this is nurses being hot, not just a nurse outfit. Then there is the name implying hotness in no way.

So, again, no, it wouldn't solve this to change only that.

I think you have a point here. The core of the trope is the "sexy old-fashioned nurse's uniform" but the name just doesn't relate to it and some of the examples just seem to be about sexy nurses generally. I think it needs a name change and some pruning. Would Sexy Nurse Uniform be an alternative? Also, I agree the Alice and Bob stuff confuses the matter and should go.

Apart from the cold remedy, the name may have been influenced by a well-known reggae song called "Night Nurse", which is in praise of the singer's hot girlfriend, but not in a sexy uniform. UB 40 covered it in the 80s, but I can't remember who the original performer was.

Well let's say this is that trope. 1. I'd be willing to fix it if there is a consensus to do so. 2. Should I put the care-taking aspect on ykttw?

Taking your points in order:-

1. Yes, thanks. 2. It's possible there's a trope in that, depending on how broadly you describe it. "Person doesn't feel great, so other person provides "sexual healing"" probably would be a trope, for instance, but I bet we already have it somewhere. At least YKTTW would clarify if that is the case.

No, I meant actually taking care of someone who's sick.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we already have the nursing back to health / care-taking trope, it's Florence Nightingale Effect.

No, that's falling in love with the patient.

Wasn't Florence Nightingale a lesbian?

edited 29th Apr '11 12:29:09 PM by Jordan

From Hospital Hottie, it's clear that Hopsital Hottie is for nurses who are attractive and that this for sexy nurse outfits. The Florence Nightingale Effect is clearly about the relationship that forms from the caring aspect of being a nurse.

We already have a trope for attractive nurses, we already have a trope for the special relationship of nurses.

If you change this trope we do not have a trope about attractive nurse outfits, which is clearly an established enough thing to be a trope.

I don't see what your problem is. The stuff that disagrees with this definition is clearly wrong and should be changed. Otherwise you're going to have to cannibalise and destroy two other clear and concisely written tropes.

I agree with taking out the first two paragraphs and suggest some amendment which explicitly talks about the dress

EDIT: And although the Laconic clearly supports this definition, maybe "Sexy nurse outfit" would be more precise, because I think it's accepted (at least it is in other tropes) that an actual nurse can by a freak universe or life wear this outfit EDITEDIT: Also the laconics and indexes explicitly do not imply that this is a nurse being hot. The laconic implies the opposite (Pretend nurse) and the indexes suggest a fetish trope. The only index that implies nurse is the doctors one and if you look at it, the very next trope on the index does not apply to doctors but is just doctor related

edited 22nd Jul '11 9:18:14 AM by Tomwithnonumbers

This. This is a trope about sexy nurse outfits. Everything else is already covered by other tropes.

Okay, well then I'd be 100% for a rename, because Night Nurse doesn't sound like a costume trope at all. It sounds like a nurse who works the night shift, or something.

I'll third to rename.

edited 22nd Jul '11 1:53:30 PM by pokedude10

Fourthing.

Night Nurse found in: 106 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 405 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

Is there evidence of misuse? I don't like the name, but is it actually a problem?

There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here.

I'm in favor of tacking a costume on the end.

Consensus to rename. Switching to alt names crowners.

It looks like this is two tropes to me.

One is about a sexy nurse outfit. A specific type of nurse's outfit (the old one with the nurses cap) that is associated with Fetish Fuel. Similar to French Maid Outfit.

The other is about dressing up as a nurse to take care of an injured lover. Supposedly as a fetish role-play thing. Which I've seen quite a few times in fiction.

This second trope is not covered by Hospital Hottie since that is about real nurses being considered sexy- similar to Hot Librarian.

Nor is it covered by the Florence Nightingale Effect which is about a person falling in love with the person she is caring for.

This secondary trope in Night Nurse is about someone who is already in love with a person using that person's injury as an excuse to engage in fetishy role play. Either as a seduction (they aren't in a relationship, but want to be) or to fulfill one of the partners fetish (already in a relationship, and using this as an opportunity to spice things up).

The second one sounds almost like an arbitrary intersection of the first (Hot Nurses Outfit, or whatever we call it) and Sexy Roleplay Dressup (I'm sure we have that trope, I'm just too lazy to find its official name right now). The only thing that distinguishes it from an arbitrary A+B is the "injured lover" part. That's probably enough to make it a valid trope, BUT...

The sexy nurse's uniform thing is far more common. If we're going to keep this as only one of those tropes, I think that's the one to keep. The other can go to YKTTW with examples from this page.