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Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#1: Apr 19th 2011 at 4:35:54 PM

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What I love is that their excuse for opposing net neutrality is very different from their arguments against it here in the states (as far as I know).

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RalphCrown Short Hair from Next Door to Nowhere Since: Oct, 2010
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#2: Apr 20th 2011 at 2:45:51 PM

Here's the thing—there is a physical limit to how much traffic the hardware can carry at any given time. The Internet wasn't designed to carry voice or video, data types that have a high signal-to-noise ratio in terms of information. The fact that VOIP is effectively useless at peak times means there simply isn't enough bandwidth to handle the volume.

In Europe these facts matter. In the US they don't. I guess the data fairies can whistle up their unicorns to carry Netflix movies from town to town and send Skype calls along puffs of pixie dust.

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Uchuujinsan Since: Oct, 2009
#3: Apr 20th 2011 at 4:51:15 PM

"The Internet wasn't designed.."?
Maybe not when it was first conceived, but currently it certainly gets designed (and got designed for the last 10 years) around such requirements. With capacities around a terrabit per second on a SINGLE optical fiber, multiplied by the amount of fibers you use the bandwidth can be handled if you consider the mere requirement of transmiting the information.
The signal processors are a little more complicated. As far as I know, there are currently no real physical limits to bandwidth, only a limit due to the cost. (The optical signal processors and the emitters for those 1 terrabit systems are expensive, ~20k euro afaik)

It's an ecomonomic issue, not a technical one.

edited 20th Apr '11 4:51:41 PM by Uchuujinsan

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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#4: Apr 20th 2011 at 5:32:26 PM

Yeah, the new types of lines and infrastructure is fully capable of transferring video and voice. You can't talk about 20 year old tech when we have new tech to work with. Certainly dirt roads aren't designed to handle modern automobiles, so should we not have modern automobiles? Of course not, we've modern asphalt roads now.

Fibre optic is more than capable of transferring large amounts of data and really we should be looking at how we can increase capacity to the point where we can fully rely upon basically limitless internet based on today's needs (and tomorrow we'll find new ways to push the boundaries of technology). It's a question of whether you want your country to be economically viable in the future or not.

blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#5: Apr 20th 2011 at 5:39:12 PM

Well, there's more than just the physical capacity, when is ipv6 going to get widespread adoption??

EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Apr 22nd 2011 at 7:30:06 AM

Capacity is a smokescreen, if they were really worried about this, they'd just increase the price of bandwidth during peak demand (as is currently done with other utilities like electricity and water.) The problem with this? bandwidth is well under 1ยข/GB, if billing were switched from monthly to metered based on demand at anything resembling the actual expenses, profits would implode.

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#7: Apr 22nd 2011 at 7:51:21 AM

Can't access BBC from work, can I have a quick sum up?

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