tropegraph

I have made a pretty project with the tvtropes data: http://bigasterisk.com/tropeGraph/

That page has an explanation at the top.

cheers! -drewp

Seems interesting, but what if one page lists a trope as being played straight and another one was listed as being averted?

Of all the errors that can creep in this process, I hadn't even thought of that one yet :)

My graph can only claim that the two movies are "related" when it comes to that trope. I don't have the data to show that the trope was averted (or "barely averted", lampshaded, referenced, etc).

To solve this most elegantly, we'd add more brains to the DB Tropes extractor so tropeGraph *and* any other projects that consume the data can all benefit.

Fast Eddie was right! TV Tropes is a necessary component of the Semantic Web! (Were you aware of this article?)

*Pokes movie map for several minutes straight*

edited 17th Apr '11 4:27:59 PM by Tangent128

Aversions aren't supposed to be listed anyway.

Thanks for the link Tangent128. I added it and this discussion to the docs on the page.

Notable aversions are listed.

The graph isn't working on my computer (IE, Windows 7).

edited 17th Apr '11 5:25:20 PM by chihuahua0

Wait a minute. What sense of the word "notable" are you using?

Aversions to tropes that are nigh-omnipresent.

Like Bowel Existence Failure or No Periods, Period.

Usually aversions should never be listed or be the only thing thats listed.

edited 17th Apr '11 6:02:17 PM by DrStarky

I meant for when a show averts something common in its genre, like all those tropes on the buttom of the Firefly page.

Wait, where do I have to go when I want the graph to be generated? I can't see any link in Opera, and the "Stop" button doesn't seem to do much (I only see some load from the browser, then nothing).

If only notable aversions are listed, then if both movies list them is because both notably avert the trope. Thus, the scenario where one trope is listed as played straight while other list as averted shouldn't happen.

Anyway, cool project. What is needed is a feature to chose the movies you want to display, but you know that already. More important, I think it would be cool if we could chose a single movie to be the 'center' and the rest to be randomly generated, so we can see which movies are similar to you favorite one.

Oh, and, whenever possible, expand it to other media.

The page should start drawing an obvious animated graph once it is done loading. From there, you can dial some parameters up and down or drag the nodes around yourself. There are reports of it not working in IE, which is no surprise, and not something I have the means to fix.

Here's a screenshot of what the graph looks like: I set a similarity threshold high enough to avoid having lines everywhere, since most pairs of movies have some tropes in common. Here, we see that Die Hard/Iron Man (and also Ed Wood/Blue Velvet) have some of the highest proportions of tropes in common with each other.

The code can draw absolute trope counts, too, but that gives an even bigger bias to movies that just happen to have a lot of their tropes enumerated.

edited 17th Apr '11 8:43:26 PM by drewp

"No hotlinked images, please"

Beyond that, I can't sny diagram in-page. Both Opera and Midori only show a little vertical bar where, I assume, the graph would go. Firefox can go around modifying the sliders, but freezes whenever I push "Stop".

Couldn't care more, or less, about IE.

It won't load for me. There are errors on the page. I can show you the error messages.

wtf linked images. The link to the screenshot is in the expanded intro docs at the top of the tropeGraph webpage itself. Or, take the image's filename, which is 'grab2.png', and put that after http://bigasterisk.com/tropeGraph/

Feel free to email me error messages that you see: drewp@bigasterisk.com (or if THAT gets mangled, go to the page, click my name, then click 'email' at the top of my home page)

Nope, I get nothing like that, I'm using the latest firefox btw. Just a load of sliders that I can move around, but they do nothing.