In Riastrad
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH NO.
Binary conceptions of gender and sexuality make me want to stab things.
My name is Cu Chulainn. Beside the raging sea I am left to moan. Sorrow I am, for I brought down my only son.
someone
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Are you suggesting that people tend to assume that they're communicating with homosexuals and/or females?
edited 9th Apr '11 6:54:16 PM by ThatHuman
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Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard
So... if I say I'm a girl, does that mean G.I.R.L. is in effect? And if I say I'm bisexual, then what does that mean?
The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.
It's because there's no girls on the internet.
"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
nonarySpade
See, I have this bad habit where I say precisely the type of thing that will offend people, without that being my intention.
They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
So, what you're trying to say is that women and gay people are more inclined to hide their sex/orientation than men and straight people.
I guess that sort of makes sense, but claiming that everybody who doesn't want to tell you their gender is female is a bit of a stretch.
Be not afraid...
nonarySpade
Jeez, this thread is already an old shame. I want to lock it, but I DON'T KNOW HOW D:
They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
Insane Troll Logic seems to be a bit too much in this thread.
because let's face it, gender dictates a bodiless and often voiceless conversation /durrr.
What if they're a gay transman and they say "does it matter?"
Oh My
Or a pansexual trigendered genderqueer.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
nonarySpade
Please, please, PLEASE somebody lock this. Posting this was poor judgment, to say the least.
They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard
No, it does bring up a good point, does the inherent disposition that many people have towards girls existing on the internet affect whether or not many women feel like admitting their gender? And gays, does the prejudice that still holds strong in many places on the net also effect them? They're good questions.
The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.
complete noob
This seems perfectly logical. I see nothing wrong with this line of reasoning.
edited 9th Apr '11 7:26:24 PM by mailedbypostman
nonarySpade
Okay, phew. I DETEST offending people.
They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
You're going to offend someone regardless of how you treat them, in a context where gender doesn't or shouldn't matter, making a big deal of it can be offensive, dont'cha think?
nonarySpade
Sometimes it's just out of curiosity. I want to know what voice to read the creator in.
They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
Creator, of what? A private message >_<
If it's a media creator, then A. It's only a passing matter, and if they don't care to tell you, then assuming based on your own empirical evidence is exactly the wrong thing to do.
If it's a person you want to get to know, then that little tidbit will probably come up, y'know, since you want to get to know them.
Other than that though, knowing someone's gender is meaningless on the internet.
@Counterclock: Some people like to be able to stick a voice on a forum post, it's pretty common. I read everything in the voice of Morgan Freeman so it isn't really an issue for me.
@Kex: You're rather new here aren't you? The tvtropes fora has a rather large group of gays, transsexuals etc. Trying to get a separate voice for everyone will be confusing to say the least.
edited 9th Apr '11 8:48:27 PM by thatguythere47
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
nonarySpade
I'm aware of that, but yeah, I'm new.
They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
Second panel is how I read most posts.
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Just assume everyone is a guy, until otherwise.
Not always, but usually that is right. The phrase or question "Does it matter?" implies a positive response, but also in itself it is a very important question: do the genre and sexual orientation of a person you are talking to online really matter?
Unfortunately, the frequent use of these words in the specific situations you mentioned make it a pretty worthless response nowadays, because if you tell that to anyone they will assume you are the thing that they are asking you, instead of really doubting the importance of the original question.
But can we analyse the sum of these three words in this context further? Does it imply even more than we think?
संसार
Or...they could just answer the goddamn question.
That would be ideal, but we live in a tragic world in which people would rather be ambiguous and mysterious 
edited 9th Apr '11 10:11:19 PM by KingOfKings
संसार
Just something that I noticed:
If you see a question like this asked to a person online:
Are you a boy or a girl?
And they respond by saying:
Does it matter?
It's a girl. Likewise (AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND OFFENSIVE), if this question is asked:
Are you gay?
And the answer is, once again:
Does it matter?
It's gay. There are exceptions, natch, but still, it's something I felt like mentioning. If you can think of any other examples, post 'em here.
They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay