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A very apt and concise description.
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.
 427 warrior 93, Fri, 5th Oct '12 12:13:57 AM from North Carolina
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I always thought Lex Luthor was more of a Ozymandias type of character than anything else.
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I'd imagine thats the way he see himself. My interpretation of the character was that he was a genius who was in constant need validation. He's the smartest man in the room and he wants you to know it and he will constantly remind if you if you forget.
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.
 429 Maridee, Fri, 5th Oct '12 9:05:05 AM from the suburban jungle Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
He and Riddler should get along well.
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 430 Zeromaeus, Fri, 5th Oct '12 10:42:52 AM from Neo Arcadia
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Only if you mean they would actually hate each other completely and utterly...
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 431 Maridee, Fri, 5th Oct '12 11:16:16 AM from the suburban jungle Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Exactly! They would get along fantastically!

...or at least slightly better than Joker and Luthor...
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[up] Eh, not really. The thing is that, while Luthor and Joker don't like each other in the slightest, they both have a wary respect for the other. Luthor views the Joker as a dangerous live grenade, but one Luthor is actually good enough to handle. Joker, meanwhile, views Lex as a egotistical stick in the mud, who nonetheless comes up with the most *amazing* opportunities for fun. So they both find benefit from working together, even as they both are doing their best to benefit from it more than the other guy.

The Riddler offers none of this to Lex. He's just another genius, without the Joker's unique talent for mayhem, and Luthor *already* is a genius. And since both of them insist on being the smartest, most in-control man in the room, they'd grate on each other until someone attempts homicide.
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I've always entertained the idea that if they were to work together they would actually be leaving booby traps for each other. I also suspect that despite Luthor's planet sized ego he would actually just allow The Riddler to go on an on about how smart he is. Like he doesn't actually have the energy or perhaps see the point of correcting him.
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.
Luthor's ego wouldn't let him consider that he couldn't control even a violent lunatic like the Joker.
 
[up] The thing is, he actually *can*. . . well, control is far too strong a word. But unlike almost everyone else in the setting, he can actually handle the Joker in a way that is, while not safe, at least more unsafe for his enemies than for himself. So his ego isn't *totally* wrong. Which is what makes Luthor so dangerous when he's well-written: his ego may be the size of the planet, but he's almost never *totally* wrong.
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[up] Oh, I agree. Luthor isn't at all intimidated by the Joker's sociopathy; he can manipulate the Joker to his own ends 99 times out of 100. The Joker is for Luthor a stimulating exercise in lateral thinking.
 
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One wonders if the Joker realizes this half the time. Or do you think it would be akin to a friendly game of chess to them?
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.
 438 Known Unknown, Sun, 7th Oct '12 12:31:54 AM from Here. There. Everywhere.
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Joker's opinion of Luthor is that he's a big ball of pretentiousness, self-aggrandizement and ludicrously hilarious hypocrisy... which results in Joker actually liking the guy because he's so screwed up. Or should I say, he really like messing with him, because he thinks the guy's a joke - one of my favorite Joker moments features Luthor visiting him in the asylum, and Joker going into a long routine parodying Luthor's motivations and the very concept behind his character. It's hilarious, especially Luthor's deadpan reaction.

Luckily for a possible partnership, he enjoys the fun of working with Luthor as much as the fun of making a joke out of him. The two are actually kind of strange, in that they're two people who you'd never expect to even tolerate each other who show each other more respect than they do most others.

I guess it's a matter of respect: just like Luthor respects Joker's obfuscated tactical genius, Joker respects Luthor's demented ruthlessness and willingness and ability to get anything he wants done.

edited 7th Oct '12 12:34:26 AM by KnownUnknown

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[up]So really, they're very much alike. One just has the veneer of "sanity" and one does not.
 
Has there ever been a comic crossover where Luthor and Doom met? Because based on these description, their mentalities - always wanting to be the best, the smartest, the most admired, believing they're doing things for the good of others but resenting anyone who steals their thunder by being better than them - seem really similar. A meeting between them could be really interesting (they'd hate each other of course, two egos of that size).

[up] The big difference is that, Doom has actual *virtues*, whereas dig deep enough into Luthor, and you find nothing but sociopath. I suspect putting them in the same room would go badly, as Luthor must be the smartest person in any room, which he isn't if he's supping with Doom.
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 442 Borne Again, Mon, 8th Oct '12 8:00:21 PM from Last House on the Right
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With Joker and Luthor I think the former almost sees a kindred spirit in Lex, given that both are powerful men obsessed and defined by the particular hero they face. The only difference is that Luthor states he Superman to be gone while Joker openly admits his adoration for the struggle with Batman.
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Awww, it looks like Michael Shannon isn't going to say Kneel Before Zod. Such a shame.
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 444 JR Pictures, Thu, 29th Nov '12 6:24:12 PM from Australia Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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Makes sense, it is a rather silly but cool line but considering how serious this film is. I'm fine with it.

Also try and share this countdown of TDKR Blu-Ray countdown so once it reaches 100% we get a sneak peak of Man of Steel.

edited 29th Nov '12 6:24:40 PM by JRPictures

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 445 Ekuran, Thu, 29th Nov '12 6:51:02 PM from somewhere. Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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He won't say it because he'll make people kneel to their rightful god-king.
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 446 kalel 94, Thu, 29th Nov '12 6:56:20 PM from Dragonstone
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[up][up] Wait, when does it reach 100? When enough people pre-order the dvd?
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 447 JR Pictures, Thu, 29th Nov '12 7:41:12 PM from Australia Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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When they share the site on Facebook or other social networks
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Cover with a better look. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/12/07/new-portrait-of-man-of-steels-superman-on-magazine-cover/

I'm thinking I like the look of the suit a lot better here. The texture is still weird. He has the smile down though.

edited 7th Dec '12 11:36:12 AM by comicwriter

 
 449 Known Unknown, Fri, 7th Dec '12 1:17:46 PM from Here. There. Everywhere.
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The faded/darker shading on the suit reminds of the Robin suit in Batman Forever, which in turn reminds me of the kind of shenanigans DC gets up to in movies when they come to the conclusion that they need to make their characters "edgy" or "serious."

I'd actually forgotten that, despite how interested I am in where this film can go and what it can do, whenever I see actual imagery or trailers of it I get wary of the directions they're going with Superman himself.

edited 7th Dec '12 1:18:41 PM by KnownUnknown

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Well there was a recent interview where Nolan reiterated that they're not giving Superman "the Dark Knight treatment" because he's a completely different character and that gritty realism simply doesn't work. I mean they've taken liberties to make the costume look more alien or whatever but I can't think of a superhero film in recent memory that didn't make alterations to the costumes.
 
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