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petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#51: Mar 29th 2011 at 2:46:50 PM

^How exactly are those states being ranked? While I realize there may be multiple ways to measure corruption, I'm having trouble thinking of one that puts Illinois at 47th most corrupt.

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#52: Mar 29th 2011 at 2:52:28 PM

It looks like they're taking the frequency of different kinds of corrupt things and averaging them.

#47 Illinois
Public Corruption: 16
Racketeering & Extortion: 18
Fraud Rank: 46
Forgery & Counterfeiting: 50
Embezzlement: 51

It's pretty high up there on Public Corruption, Racketeering, and Extortion, but apparently there's not a lot of the other things compared to other states.

Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#53: Mar 29th 2011 at 3:00:14 PM

Ah, general rot. Usually people mean Gvt. rot.

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drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#54: Mar 29th 2011 at 6:04:17 PM

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Guys, hate to tell you this, but from reading the actual bill in question, a few discrepancies pop up from the article linked in the OP:

  • 1: It's an amendment, not a new bill. There's nothing in the actual bill text (that I saw) regarding the creation of any new funds. Apparently, such accounts were already available under existing law. I haven't tracked down the law this bill is amending, will try.
  • 2: All the bill contains is a list of requirements that the funds be recorded, and the recordings be publicly available. It goes on for 5 pages, lists a wide variety of donation types and how they must be recorded and submitted before the candidate can enter office.
  • 3: Nothing in here about the creation of new funds.

Here's a link to the bill's actual text.

I think this sounds like another bloviating blogger trying to stir up shit. I'd be real careful about believing stuff you read on the internets, if I were you people.

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#55: Mar 29th 2011 at 6:18:25 PM

Well, it certainly doesn't state that there are any limits, either...but you may be right. I certainly hope it's just an annoying blogger.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#56: Mar 29th 2011 at 6:20:36 PM

@Ultra: Oh me too. And again, the law is amending a previous one that's already on the books. I can't seem to find it, maybe the limits are in there. Still, something this egregious does cry out for some research, no?

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#57: Mar 30th 2011 at 12:56:44 PM

izumoshep: A "private" business should be able to donate "their" money to whoever "they" like. So long as the politician or the party make it clear who they are getting the donation from and how much they are receiving.

No.

Private citizens and businesses do not have the necessary checks and balances to effectively replace our government in a faithful way.

@ izumoshep: Here I quote Wulf.

It's totally reasonable to restrict how people/businesses can spend their money, especially in the case of politics. Besides, there's plenty of things you can't legally buy with your hard-earned legal tender.

Precisely. Come back and chat when we can legally buy cocaine, tanks, and weapons-grade plutonium.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#58: Mar 30th 2011 at 2:16:50 PM

We should get to work on that stuff anyway.

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