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1201 Sijo14th Jul 2012 08:33:27 AM from Puerto Rico
Hmm...
Merida was OK for her role in the movie. What I think annoyed most people (including me) is that her archery stunt in the trailers, while awesome, didn't look like a smart way to solve her dilemma (it did not) and just made her look like a stubborn fool.

Here's something I just realized: the TRUE reason Elinor may have wanted Merida to be the "perfect, obedient princess" may have been... that she wanted someone else in the family to be like her. Everyone one of her *four* children took after her husband, and while nice people, they were all impulsive, unwise and (probably) not fit for good rulers. I can only imagine how frustrating that might be. Parents aren't supposed to play favorites, but its just human nature.

Yes, I know that was supposed to be obvious -Merida directly accuses her of it- but the film doesn't make it that evident, mainly because Elinor just always seems to be right all the time (and therefore, Merida is 'wrong'.) Maybe if they had included, I dunno, a scene where The King and queen discuss the situation and they reveal that yes, they COULD try to change the marriage tradition if they really wanted to, Merida's case would be more sympathetic (and the ending make more sense.)

edited 14th Jul '12 8:35:48 AM by Sijo

1202 Mort0814th Jul 2012 10:24:27 AM from Oklahoma , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Pirate AND writer!
[up] And then they barely ended up using the archery.

I just can't relate to her. I'm one of those rare teenage girls that actually does what their parents say.

And no, I have not been male nor British. Sorry to disappoint.
1203 phoenixdaughterAM14th Jul 2012 12:57:06 PM from Cursed college , Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Wiping All Out
And my family problems are with my Step-dad. Which makes me notice that the only time a daughter-father bond is played with problems is The Little Mermaid. (I'm certian there are others but that is the only one that I know of) Otherwise, Daddy's Girl is in full effect.

edited 14th Jul '12 12:58:01 PM by phoenixdaughterAM

1204 deathpigeon14th Jul 2012 02:28:10 PM from Everything sacred is a tie, a fetter. , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
[up][up] ...I can't picture you as a girl because I can't imagine you without the beard from your avvie...
Ich hab' Mein' Sach' auf Nichts gestellt.

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1205 phoenixdaughterAM14th Jul 2012 02:36:34 PM from Cursed college , Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Wiping All Out
-laughs- Oh the image!
1206 Mort0814th Jul 2012 03:16:50 PM from Oklahoma , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Pirate AND writer!
0_o
1207 Enzeru14th Jul 2012 08:14:20 PM from Orlando, FL χಠ♥
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And then they barely ended up using the archery.

It seemed oft-used to me.
Responsible adult
"I want to ride with my hair flowing in the wind, firing arrows into the sunset!"

Still an awesome moment. [lol]
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1209 Mort0814th Jul 2012 08:34:47 PM from Oklahoma , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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[up][up] Perhaps it got used a lot, but in the end it was never really that useful.
1210 Enzeru14th Jul 2012 08:35:30 PM from Orlando, FL χಠ♥
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[up]True...
1211 PippingFool14th Jul 2012 09:29:35 PM from Sydney, The Vivid City , Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
HIL to stop worring and make it rain
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Well, it was used in the fishing scene, where it was useful and in both encounters with Mor'du, though, it was destined to be useless there, Mor'du had survived hundreds of arrowshots.

However, it didn't really have any plot bearing elements except for the scene in which Elinor tosses the bow into the fire which was understandable when Merida had just slashed the tapestry.

edited 14th Jul '12 9:31:24 PM by PippingFool

Just saw this today and, I have to ask, while I can see how the spell the witch gave Merida could "change her fate," I don't see how it made her mother more like her...unless, that's, like, the only spell the witch knows or something...
1213 KnownUnknown14th Jul 2012 11:30:02 PM from Here. There. Everywhere.
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It's the only spell the witch knows, I'm guessing.

Or at least, I imagine she bearly knows any others.
"My final prayer: O my body, always make me a man who questions!" — Frantz Fanon
@Pipping Fool

Nah, was just kidding about that. You're an aussie girl right?

Maybe we should all just reveal our genders, clear up some confusion.
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1215 PippingFool15th Jul 2012 04:20:30 AM from Sydney, The Vivid City , Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
HIL to stop worring and make it rain
[up]

Ay, you'd be correct.

(That seems like a good idea though)

edited 15th Jul '12 4:20:54 AM by PippingFool

1216 MetaFour15th Jul 2012 06:48:56 PM from a house for thieves
1217 Shota15th Jul 2012 07:45:09 PM , Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
That's not a review. That's a Masters thesis!

edited 15th Jul '12 7:45:22 PM by Shota

1218 Wackd15th Jul 2012 07:58:10 PM , Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
[up][up]Okay. This is important. Now, usually, I hate having to read extraneous material to understand a work. If the narrative and characters aren't compelling on their own, why should a deeper analysis be?

So this is me sticking a massive, bear-sized foot in my mouth and following it up with a serving of crow.

I appreciate the movie better now for having read that.
1219 Sijo15th Jul 2012 08:16:07 PM from Puerto Rico
Hmm...
[up][up][up]Definitely, best review of the film I've read yet. A bit long, though.

edited 15th Jul '12 8:16:38 PM by Sijo

1220 deathpigeon15th Jul 2012 08:17:19 PM from Everything sacred is a tie, a fetter. , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
...Well, I actually got that, as in what was in the essay, the first time around, I mean me and the people I was watching with were practically praying that it wouldn't turn into the "Princess doesn't want to marry anyone, until Prince Charming appears, and all that goes out the window," and were pleasantly surprised when it didn't. However, I would've never been able to put that as well as the essay did.

edited 15th Jul '12 8:17:58 PM by deathpigeon

Ich hab' Mein' Sach' auf Nichts gestellt.

My Story
1221 Mort0815th Jul 2012 08:22:38 PM from Oklahoma , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Pirate AND writer!
They had said beforehand that there wouldn't be a Love Interest.
1222 deathpigeon15th Jul 2012 08:32:08 PM from Everything sacred is a tie, a fetter. , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Not all of us had seen those statements.
Ich hab' Mein' Sach' auf Nichts gestellt.

My Story
UTINNI!
Dang, that's one impressive and well-written essay. I like. I very much like. smile
1224 DrPsyche15th Jul 2012 09:29:58 PM from Hawaiʻi , Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Here to demean Nepeta and get some loot
That was a very good essay. The acts of Bravery were examined and compared well.
And I'm all out of cat 8itches to step on.
1225 Rebochan17th Jul 2012 02:22:24 PM from Soaking up Rays
I've got Sunshine!
After reading that essay, I have to say - Brave is probably the boldest and gutsiest movie Pixar has made since WALLE.
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