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Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#1201: Jul 14th 2012 at 8:33:27 AM

Merida was OK for her role in the movie. What I think annoyed most people (including me) is that her archery stunt in the trailers, while awesome, didn't look like a smart way to solve her dilemma (it did not) and just made her look like a stubborn fool.

Here's something I just realized: the TRUE reason Elinor may have wanted Merida to be the "perfect, obedient princess" may have been... that she wanted someone else in the family to be like her. Everyone one of her *four* children took after her husband, and while nice people, they were all impulsive, unwise and (probably) not fit for good rulers. I can only imagine how frustrating that might be. Parents aren't supposed to play favorites, but its just human nature.

Yes, I know that was supposed to be obvious -Merida directly accuses her of it- but the film doesn't make it that evident, mainly because Elinor just always seems to be right all the time (and therefore, Merida is 'wrong'.) Maybe if they had included, I dunno, a scene where The King and queen discuss the situation and they reveal that yes, they COULD try to change the marriage tradition if they really wanted to, Merida's case would be more sympathetic (and the ending make more sense.)

edited 14th Jul '12 8:35:48 AM by Sijo

Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#1202: Jul 14th 2012 at 10:24:27 AM

[up] And then they barely ended up using the archery.

I just can't relate to her. I'm one of those rare teenage girls that actually does what their parents say.

And no, I have not been male nor British. Sorry to disappoint.

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#1203: Jul 14th 2012 at 12:57:06 PM

And my family problems are with my Step-dad. Which makes me notice that the only time a daughter-father bond is played with problems is The Little Mermaid. (I'm certian there are others but that is the only one that I know of) Otherwise, Daddy's Girl is in full effect.

edited 14th Jul '12 12:58:01 PM by phoenixdaughterAM

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#1204: Jul 14th 2012 at 2:28:10 PM

[up][up] ...I can't picture you as a girl because I can't imagine you without the beard from your avvie...

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#1207: Jul 14th 2012 at 8:14:20 PM

And then they barely ended up using the archery.

It seemed oft-used to me.

FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
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#1208: Jul 14th 2012 at 8:33:08 PM

"I want to ride with my hair flowing in the wind, firing arrows into the sunset!"

Still an awesome moment. [lol]

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Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#1209: Jul 14th 2012 at 8:34:47 PM

[up][up] Perhaps it got used a lot, but in the end it was never really that useful.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#1211: Jul 14th 2012 at 9:29:35 PM

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Well, it was used in the fishing scene, where it was useful and in both encounters with Mor'du, though, it was destined to be useless there, Mor'du had survived hundreds of arrowshots.

However, it didn't really have any plot bearing elements except for the scene in which Elinor tosses the bow into the fire which was understandable when Merida had just slashed the tapestry.

edited 14th Jul '12 9:31:24 PM by PippingFool

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#1212: Jul 14th 2012 at 11:08:27 PM

Just saw this today and, I have to ask, while I can see how the spell the witch gave Merida could "change her fate," I don't see how it made her mother more like her...unless, that's, like, the only spell the witch knows or something...

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1213: Jul 14th 2012 at 11:30:02 PM

It's the only spell the witch knows, I'm guessing.

Or at least, I imagine she bearly knows any others.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
blueflame724 Since: May, 2010
#1214: Jul 15th 2012 at 1:04:49 AM

@Pipping Fool

Nah, was just kidding about that. You're an aussie girl right?

Maybe we should all just reveal our genders, clear up some confusion.

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#1215: Jul 15th 2012 at 4:20:30 AM

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Ay, you'd be correct.

(That seems like a good idea though)

edited 15th Jul '12 4:20:54 AM by PippingFool

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#1217: Jul 15th 2012 at 7:45:09 PM

That's not a review. That's a Masters thesis!

edited 15th Jul '12 7:45:22 PM by Shota

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#1218: Jul 15th 2012 at 7:58:10 PM

[up][up]Okay. This is important. Now, usually, I hate having to read extraneous material to understand a work. If the narrative and characters aren't compelling on their own, why should a deeper analysis be?

So this is me sticking a massive, bear-sized foot in my mouth and following it up with a serving of crow.

I appreciate the movie better now for having read that.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#1219: Jul 15th 2012 at 8:16:07 PM

[up][up][up]Definitely, best review of the film I've read yet. A bit long, though.

edited 15th Jul '12 8:16:38 PM by Sijo

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#1220: Jul 15th 2012 at 8:17:19 PM

...Well, I actually got that, as in what was in the essay, the first time around, I mean me and the people I was watching with were practically praying that it wouldn't turn into the "Princess doesn't want to marry anyone, until Prince Charming appears, and all that goes out the window," and were pleasantly surprised when it didn't. However, I would've never been able to put that as well as the essay did.

edited 15th Jul '12 8:17:58 PM by deathpigeon

Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#1221: Jul 15th 2012 at 8:22:38 PM

They had said beforehand that there wouldn't be a Love Interest.

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#1222: Jul 15th 2012 at 8:32:08 PM

Not all of us had seen those statements.

SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
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#1223: Jul 15th 2012 at 8:51:31 PM

Dang, that's one impressive and well-written essay. I like. I very much like. smile

DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#1224: Jul 15th 2012 at 9:29:58 PM

That was a very good essay. The acts of Bravery were examined and compared well.

Rebochan Since: Jan, 2001
#1225: Jul 17th 2012 at 2:22:24 PM

After reading that essay, I have to say - Brave is probably the boldest and gutsiest movie Pixar has made since Wall E.


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